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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The one that still gets me, and mostly because in this day and age of 2026 it still doesn't get as much homophobic backlash as I feel it clearly deserves is the pejorative: cocksucker.

In my anecdotal experience, 99.55% of the time, it's leveraged against men and used as a homophobic slur.

But even so, is sucking cock really that terrible of a thing to do? The vast majority of people with a cock enjoy the service. We literally celebrate the people who do it well for us personally, in most cases.

Why is it used as a slur?

Anyway, I'm off to suck some cock, see ya'll later.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

99.55%

The specificity of this made me imagine that you had actually taken inventory of every single time you've encountered this in your personal life experience and done the math, lol.

[–] alonsohmtz@feddit.uk 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It usually implies that whoever is giving head is being taken advantage of.

i.e. They got swindled by some shitty male into pleasing said male at the cost of their own dignity.

It doesn't happen always, but it happens often enough for the act to be seen as degrading.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I took it to mean that the person referred to is an opportunist of sorts. A man who will perform said act on another man for some kind of benefit, despite being straight or disliking that man.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

There goes my hero, watch him as he goes.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Motherfucker - Includes (Most) dads of 2 or more kids.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Why two or more?

Do you think people with only one child no longer have sex?

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

The first time she's not yet a mother

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not excluding them.

It's that I can't prove that a 1 child father is a Motherfucker.

2 kids from the same mother? Someone is a Motherfucker.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hello, 1 child motherfucker here, and I appreciate your reasoning!

Although, since my mind can't help but wander into the what-ifs and edge cases, I bet there is some tiny number of pairings of people who have 2+ biological children together and yet never had sex.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh yes. A whole lot of edge cases. Surrogate mothers, step-dads, lesbian and gay parents etc. Lots of people to offend with an off the cuff joke.

I chose to focus on the motherfucking obvious.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Safe travels, cocksucker!

(Mods, please don't ban me. Please observe the context. Oh my god please jesus don't do it)

[–] Ranulph@thelemmy.club 7 points 23 hours ago

That was pretty funny..safe travels indeed.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

George Carlin (who is idolized and rightly so, mostly) had a line in one of his standup specials where he said "you show me a tropical fruit and I'll show you a cocksucker from Guatemala". Homophobia was just so normalized back then (this was the '80s). Eddie Murphy had a whole routine (which he has since apologized for, to his credit) imagining Mr. T as a homosexual ("Hey boy you lookin' mighty cute in them jeans!"). Robin Williams (also idolized here) routinely acted gay for the humor value of it (such as it was).

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

George Carlin (who is idolized and rightly so, mostly) had a line in one of his standup specials where he said “you show me a tropical fruit and I’ll show you a cocksucker from Guatemala”. Homophobia was just so normalized back then (this was the ‘80s).

I don't think this bit was homophobic at all, and that you've misinterpreted it, through omission and otherwise. If anything, homophobia is part of what is being laughed at (and a small piece of the overall joke). I'll explain.

To begin with, you left out key parts of the joke; he wasn't expressing that as himself. Here's the full bit:

I remember something my third grade teacher used to say. She used to say "You show me a tropical fruit, and I'll show you a cocksucker from Guatemala." No, wait... that wasn't her. That was a guy I met in the Army.

While the joke uses "fruit" as slang for gay as part of it, that isn't actually even the punchline, the wordplay is just a vehicle for it. The humor primarily hinges on the notion of a grade school teacher saying something that crass (the second part specifically) to a child, coupled with the implication that it was something she said more than once ("used to say" instead of "said").

Then he realizes it was some grunt who was in the Army with him (who it'd make more sense to say something crass/uncouth like that), which adds another element of humor in 'how could he possibly mix those two people up?'. If anything, that hypothetical Army guy is being laughed at in part for the homophobic slur usage.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yep! And that's part of the culture I grew up in and came to age in. Media that demonized and mocked gay men (and really all gay people), even otherwise progressive and lighthearted media.

It was damaging to me as a child. More so than a lot of people could ever realize.

Also disheartening is that a lot of my super religious family will use the term cocksucker as a derogatory statement right in front of me, knowing I'm gay. These are the same exact people who literally freak out and act like you've shot their mother in front of them if you say the word "fuck" or "god damn".

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago

Cocksucker is just a good word to say; in my language the word for Cancer (yes we curse with that) is used in the same way and is also very controversial.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago

I’m interested in the viewpoints of gay men on this. I’m happy to retire the term (I don’t even know if I’ve ever actually used it), but it would be good to know if folks are actually getting offended by it.

In modern times I take it to be derogatory in an “involuntary submissive” context. One who sucks cock not because they want to, but because they are in some situation where they must.

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it used as a slur?

Easiest way to push their buttons. One may not care if another sucks cock, but if they’re insecure like these folks, then it is very effective.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 4 points 23 hours ago

Growing up, the worst thing you could be was a guy who liked other dudes. Being called a fag and cocksucker was just like "casual" insults, the way Australians call someone a cunt.

I kind of like when it's reclaimed. Like someone calling themselves a fag or a whore.

Because usually the bully ends up getting even more mad.

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

A mouth is a mouth so you might be onto something

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The vast majority of people with a cock enjoy the service.

And likely figured out they aren't as flexible as they'd like.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 17 hours ago

interestingly, it's less about flexibility and more about 'strength.' There was a how-to guide a while ago that emphasized the method of 'hands behind thighs' to pull oneself to that point. Leverage and body mechanics make it pretty difficult, and flexibility isn't even half of the battle.

[–] psilotop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While the issue you bring up is legit....what sitcom ever used that word? I feel like that would only ever be in an R rated movie

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

All over Deadwood.

But being called a Cocksucker by a wild West brothel owner may be historically accurate.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sopranos is pretty funny I guess

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

But it's the wrong hole! >:V