The AI company didn't do shit. They stole apples from someone elses tree and threw it in a blender. They didn't make the apples, nor did they buy them, so they don't legally own the juice.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

While I agree with the general idea, please don't call piracy "stealing". It's not stealing, whether you do it or some giant corpo.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

While I agree², their use of "steal" makes sense in the analogy because the apple doesn't belong to the "thief"; besides, you can't pirate an apple

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Evidently you can!

“Apple piracy is a problem,” said Lynnell Brandt, chief executive officer of Proprietary Variety Management, the Yakima firm hired to handle the Cosmic Crisp rollout. “Some are propagating trees without permission. Some are stolen in the middle of the night.”

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Don't call copyright infringement "piracy," either.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If the AI produces verbatim the licensed works of others then the others own it.

If the AI took individual unlicensed elements and pieced them together then the AI Company owns it.

In any and every case, neither the User nor the Public Domain owns it. Moral of the story is: never use AI for anything.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The AI company stole other people's code, threw it into a blender, and is selling the output. They didn't do any real work, and they don't own the materials. They have no legal claim over the result. You do not own a car you made from stolen parts, no matter how many cars you stole from.

Stop trying to imply your buddies at AI companies have value.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We appear to be talking in circles.

I'm literally sitting here telling people it isn't safe to use AI Code, you're doing the opposite, and you're accusing me of being buddies with the Slop Companies?

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. You're giving the companies WAY too much credit for owning the blender they throw stolen content into, and you're even trying to give them ownership of what clearly doesn't belong to them. I'm sure they're just as eager to claim they did all the work and license the materials they use as you are.

I try not to call people idiots in debates, so there's really only one reason you'd be giving them so much support.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 day ago

I guarantee you that the AI Companies don't give a single fuck about our opinion on copyrightable status, they've made an industry off of ignoring copyright laws entirely, and are instead salivating at the idea of a bunch of fucking idiots putting their slop code in everything so that they can try to enforce rights on it later.