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Democracy died in plain sight with the lights on.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Jeff Bezos doesn't want the Ukrainian angle to the war!
This reeks of helping the Trump White House with their anti Ukraine policies.

Fuck USA for not standing with democracy!
And Fuck USA for not standing with their closest traditional allies!
USA alone it is, at least for my part it is.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For what it is worth, as an American, I consider this development to be a fucking embarrassment.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know it's not all American, but unfortunately we have to treat USA as a collective, when the collective is acting like an enemy.
I hope somehow USA will come to their senses, and not elect a raving lunatic again, after a period of sanity.

No, I get it. This is how it needs to be played. I consider myself an outlier in that I know and care about all the insane geopolitical shit we’re doing now (in addition to the domestic situation), but there are a fuckload of complacent and/or bigoted assholes here. And the only way to shake them out of their complacency is pain and discomfort, economic or otherwise. So, genuinely, have at it. I know this is what the situation requires, and I for one really do not hold it against you. Our government is forcing your hand.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it takes more than hope. the US needs so much change it won't come without blood.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

USA is a very violent country, and I suspect you are right. Anecdotally the decades of refusal for stricter federal gun regulations indicate that very many Americans want violence.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right, and, as an American, I encourage it. These people don't stand for us, and they need to face consequences. One thing I'll always disagree with though is treating all the people as the same entity. No matter where it is, this is a class war. We need to work with people in every nation to fight against rising fascism, wherever it is. We're in this together, against them. We need allies to fight it though.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There are lots of Americans I like very much. USA has some very exceptional people and many good people.
Unfortunately they are not the ones in power, and the ones in power are not just a little bit bad and a little bit selfish.
They are lead Trump who is a flaming malignant narcissist, with a White House filled with Sociopaths. It's an absolutely insane government that doesn't give a shit about causing harm or breaking up old alliances if they think they can profit from it.

As gravitas_deficiency wrote, the US government is forcing our hand, and we can't treat USA like 2 countries, we have to treat it as 1 country. Last time with Trump we waited it out, but Trump has made that an impossible option this time. And the American people has made it an impossible option by electing Trump twice.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, the US hasn't been a democracy for most of it's history. Women didn't officially have the right to a bank account or line of credit without a male co-signer until 1974, and even after that, there were many cases of banks refusing to do so. That's half the population of the country denied financial agency. I have no doubt that it affected the ability to vote independently.

Granted that most other countries weren't any better during the same time period. My point is that the US was never the champion of democracy. It might have at best just been part of the leading edge at one point.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

the US was never the champion of democracy.

True.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

And fuck those who fuel the USA beast, like practically every nation in the EU!

They enable the USA for a cut of the pie, some with a larger slice than others...

Being the world's top arms dealer does wonders for profits, their customers are world wide and business is booming. USA has tripled production of firearms alone since 2000, and odds are good that they arm your police and/or military.

Not one of them "stands for democracy"

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's bullshit, EU absolutely stands for Democracy, and so do the member states, except Hungary.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 0 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (1 children)

Okay, then why are they financing the evil USA and buying billions of dollars worth of weaponry every year?

That's the EXACT OPPOSITE of "standing for Democracy"

Kinda weird.

And that's just the start... financially, they're even worse.

I can't keep track of every country's evils, but I know for sure the USA is un-Democratic, and I know for sure that EU countries all enable the USA to do so.

So yeah, if it's "fuck the USA", it's "fuck the EU and NATO", too. Sorry

If you sit at the table with Nazis, you're a Nazi, right?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

And that’s just the start

No you didn't really make a "just the start", because your point is stupid. Every European country is doing everything they can to get independent of American weapons.
The reason we buy them now is mostly to help Ukraine, and maintain arsenals based on older agreements.

I can’t keep track of every country’s evils,

No because you are only seeing shadows in the dark.

So yeah, if it’s “fuck the USA”, it’s “fuck the EU and NATO”, too. Sorry

Absolutely not, you are just being irrational. EU actually stands for good, and respecting human rights is part of the requirements to be a member of EU. And those rights are actually upheld as law by EU. No other defense or trade alliance or union that I know of, is as observant to human rights as EU is.
Even by your own account Your accusation is nothing but guilt by association. You are just raving without even having a point.