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[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Do it 1970s style. You own a home but pay less than half of what you do now. The extra savings go toward home maintenance and lifestyle improvement. You gain equity over time and actually get something for what you paid instead of lining someone else's pockets.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It really depends on how often he is really using that "I want to move" option.

Various fees associated with the purchase of a houae will blow away likely equity gains over a year or two. Over a short time period housing can actually go down, and you sell for less than you paid. Selling the house is a potential exposure that may leave you stuck for months with it, and if you needed to immediately move, you have to own two properties and the associated taxes, insurance, and likely loan payment. If you had to borrow and moved within a year. The interest owed probably outpaced your theoretical equity gains.

So if you are only staying in one place for say 4 years or less, renting may actually make sense. If you are planning longer than that, purchasing almost always makes more sense.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

The time cost, too. Huge hassle to buy, move, sell. Inspections, agents, viewings… big pressure end to end.

purchasing almost always makes more sense.

I remember the San Francisco Bay Area threw this old truism off when purchasing became so expensive, it was just about a wash whether you wanted to rent or buy.

These tiny little homes starting at a million bucks or something…

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

buying doesn't make sense unless you live in a place for 5-10 years.

i am now 5-6 years into my place. it is just starting to 'profit' in terms of equity vs costs.

renting is cheaper and better and has far fewer opportunity costs. i had way more disposable income as a renter and a lot more free time. i see no 'shame' in being a renter, but there is a lot of dumbass cultural bias that 'owning' is always better than renting.

same is true for cars. but people love to flip out at you for how 'stupid' leases are. cars are deprecating assets... which makes it an even stupider argument. but leases can be really great if you know what you are doing and your circumstances. leasing worked out great for me and i ended up buying my car out and making a hefty profit off it. some leasing deals are actually far better than owning the car, too.

most people just look at upfront costs and end costs. they don't see all the costs in the middle. hence why they buy a crappy car like a Jeep, when they should lease it... and end up boned from all the maintenance bills. a house is a lot more than the cost of buying it and the cost of selling it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I will say that as an owner, I have a lot more disposable income and pretty much all the free time I had as a renter.

I paid of my mortgage early, so now that's just on the ground.

House maintenance is a thing, but it's not as scary as people sometimes act like it is. Cleaning is far more work than maintenance/repairs and I had to do that either way. I have had three relatively big repair bills that I had to pay for, but that's over decades, and I could have paid a company some monthly fee if I wanted more predictability (though the home warranty companies tend to be scammy). I have a lawn to mow, but that's more a function of detached housing rather than renting/owning, renters of detached housing have to mow their lawn too, and a friend who owns a townhouse doesn't mow but has to pay big HOA fees that include landscaping services.

But absolutely, between closing costs and interest rates and risk of the housing market having a short-term dip, you aren't going to reliably and meaningfully gain equity in under 5 or 4 years. One could make a persuasive argument that a different system wouldn't have that much overhead to a purchase, but within the system we have, that's the timeframe where owning doesn't make any sense.

Of course, that said, there needs to be healthy choice in the market, so that people aren't stuck renting when it doesn't make sense for their situation.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

do you want all the negative externalizes of 1970s too? like leaded gasoline? a much more racist and sexist and hateful society? only 3 major tv stations and no internet?

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

What does that have to do with affordable housing?