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Related: Robert Reich posted earlier today that Tesla paid ZERO taxes on $5 billion in sales (earnings?), so that’s just fucking great.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 62 points 2 days ago (7 children)

And we still have to play the guessing game where we try to estimate the number that the government already knows, but won’t divulge to us, like some sort of fucked up psychological game.

This shit is so fucked. I’m awaiting the collapse.

[–] Pee_comes_from_the_balls@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

This is when daddy marx reels you into his pleasure house by telling you about how he predicted all this shit in 1848 and had advocated for the dictatorship by the proletiariat (the working class is in power, no conflictions between power and politics by allowing lobbyism), capitalism has always been doomed and the reagan bullshit about the trinkle down economics has always been known by econimists as nothing more than a self-contradicting distraction whilst we robbed foreign nations to sustain an unsustainable system.

[–] mortn@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"We have a finite environment - the planet. Anyone who thinks that you can have infinite growth in a finite environment is either a madman or an economist". ~ Sir David Attenborough

[–] Pee_comes_from_the_balls@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Couldn't they also be a mathematician? The Pointcarré recurrence theorem is a good example of infinite rate in a fixed dimensional space. Also, that quote really oversimplifies environmental engineering, the ozone layer has been fixed by the kyoto convention because every person with the simplest understanding of the carbon cycle can understand why the earth has been able to sustain ressource consumption for all animals and can still do so for a very long time still, infinitely or not.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ozone was fixed because the cost of shifting to a different gas was economically viable for largely Western countries.

The Montreal protocol was still impressive though as something that many countries could agree on without it becoming political. Ah, simpler times.

Haha, i agree, and thank you for the correction, my memory is not what it used to be, the montreal protocol did fix the ozone layer problem, the kyoto protocol adressed different issues, my error. Hopefully common sense will shift regarding the assumption that nuclear energy is bad, in my view, it is the only way to sustain humankind as we move past the recent start of the fifth industrial revolution. Humanists like Marx, Keynes and Rifkin seem to agree that the hopeful (and paradoxially very unlikely) sixth will be the death of work but I still have to see how things advance before I start believing into it.

China has shown a lot of promise thus far with their carbon reduction and development of small scale nuclear reactors, and hopefully someone will fix the fission theory someday. And concerning the simpler times, things are strange indeed in the future we live.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Animals don't grow infinitely. If their population surpasses capacity, they have a mass die-off

I don't know why you bring in the ozone layer here. That was not a problem that had anything to do with reaource consumption.

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