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Obama still wins. He deported the most immigrants of any president in history. Libs only care when Republicans do it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/19/obama-trump-deportation-numbers/84257245007/
Pretty disgusting the way you’re writing off those deaths, as if it’s normal for 7 people to die every year in these facilities.
By that logic we can also write off the murder victims of ICE as just 2 people. Americans get shot every single day right?
Yes, Ice has a job to do, combat illegal immigration. Were there roving bands of ice agents attacking cities en mass during Obama? Democrats are not political fan boys like Republicans are. They are elected officials expected to do the job they are hired for in a dignified manner, unlike Republicans. Republicans get elected to elevate hate and break down discourse. And apparently overthrow democracy?!
Boooooooooootliiiiiiiiiickerrrrrrrrrrr, no one is illegal on stolen land.
Ignorant idiot or paid agitator? That's not how the world works but it's a beautiful dream. Maybe one day you'll wake up?! I am not legitimizing government, just saying government is going to government, and there's a few ways to go about it. This right now is one of them but it's not a very good one for anyone but those at the very very top. That's a shitty way to run a country, even if the land was stolen in the first place. Conquest has existed since time immemorial, get with the program.
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Russia? Venezuela? China?
Slavery and pederasty have also existed since time immemorial. Those are also bad things. Just like stealing land. Get with the program. Or don't, and humanity will evolve past you. America is an illegitimate nation based on stolen land and slavery.
How does one just steal land? I've heard of adverse possession, and that's legal all over the world to various degrees.
I think the word you want is conquer, though. That's a debt typically paid in blood.
Cheers.
LOL 'conquer' and 'paid in blood'
That is pompous nonsense and totally not applicable.
There wasn't a great battle heroically fought between armies where the victor takes the land.
No, it was vast empty land where you could encounter some peaceful indians now and then.
americans just put a fence up and called it theirs, nothing was conquered.
Lying to the natives and slaughtering them with superior weapons doesn't count.
The same cowardly way the US fights now, bombing defenseless brown people from a distance and then walk in to plunder it.
The John Wayne heroic fights were just as much BS as the Iraq, Afghanistan propaganda movies now.
The US is a nation of thieves, and worse mass-murderers.
Cheers
Unfortunately, if it works it works. There was no great battle, correct, but if there was it would not have gone well for the original inhabitants, for the colonists had superior weaponry and tactics. They were able to just take the land because no one stopped them, like Trump today. He is getting away with it because no one is stopping him.
What gave them the right anyways, first come first serve? Well then it was first take, first claim, because the concept of owning land was foreign to a nomadic people that made their homes all over their regions. They migrated with the herds and with the weather following food and generational wisdom. Colonists came from the land of castles and lines in the sand, and this was all free real estate to them. We can rehash the past all day, where does it end because all lands today across the globe once belonged to different people's than the current "owners"? I don't know the answer to that, nor does anyone. Where does it start, where does it stop?
lmao, it was “dignified” when Obama deported 3.1 million immigrants 🤣
Americans are getting exactly what they deserve right now, and you’ve proved it.
I'm glad you think that, because I'm Canadian and you don't know a thing about nothing. Oooh large number bad, small number good. There is professional, and there is the mobs you have ransacking cities under federal guise currently taking place. Obama was so bad you can't stop talking about him, 4 presidencies ago. He only improved the economy better than anyone in the decades fore or since and installed a healthcare system that allowed millions more Americans to get the care they needed at more reasonable prices. Dems are just as fucked and compromised as the Repugnants, but at least they appeared to be doing good for their citizens. Not much you can say about that towards Cheeto Mussolini.
Ohhhhohoho. Mushi mushi. Liberals don't fanboy over politicians, we try to keep them accountable.
2 WHITE people, that's what counts for them
Yep. What a gross country.
The contexts of the deportations matter.
I think deporting to foreign prisons in nations that have nothing to do with country of origin is new, and more cruel. Ignoring need for asylum too. Returning an undocumented immigrant that came from Mexico that 'just' came to get better pay to go back and walk free in Mexico is a whole lot of difference.
Biden did waaay worse