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When do companies ask for consent? Look at Google and incognito mode. Look at 23&me, I can go on. And nobody sees anything done about it. We are numbers. Not people. That's our world
Funny that 23andMe is the Google founders wife’s company.
They ask for consent in the terms and conditions, you know, that long annoying text that no one really reads when signing up for stuff.
That is where they put the consent.
Seen the third party message on the Wirecutter comments section?
“If you comment on these socks we’re recommending YOUR DATA WILL BE SOLD!!!”
Incredible and actually good guy vendor (Disqus) in a way for not hiding it unless it was their lawyers’ doing :)
It's not real consent if you're forced to agree to use the product or if the terms allow the company to alter the terms.
Further, like, as a third party I can't really consent. Say I'm out on a walk and I pass a Tesla, or that Tesla drives by me. It has a bunch of cameras, it's recording a bunch of shit. I as a passerby have no ability to consent or decline being recorded just going about my business.
I fucking hate that. Every time I see a modern car I'm grossed out because I feel like I'm being watched.
And it's so ubiquitous that the only way to avoid them altogether is to become Amish.
Good luck never agreeing to binding arbitration. And even if you do get out of it, good luck ever holding them accountable in a class action. You might be able to file a class action, but no one can join you.
The thing about 23&Me is that they’re collecting data not just on the people who signed up for the service - the ones who actually skipped and accepted the T&Cs - but their family members as well.
So are Facebook and WhatsApp. If you’ve never used either of them they definitely know who you know and have a data entry with connections ready for you to claim if you do sign up to them.
Is it consent if it is forced?
No one is forcing you to use their services
If you need a service and every competing service has the same practice, then yes they are.
Oh, I agree, I just meant it as that is how they see it
You must not be from earth friend.
If you keep reading the thread, you'll see that I made the post to show the thought process of companies doing this.
That's unchecked capitalism
They ask for consent when they operate in the European Union
And that toothpaste is not getting put back in the tube.
My new car had a whole Wikipedia worth of terms and conditions in the screen that had to accept before turning on for the first time.
There was no alternative other than "accept" or "leave the car at the dealership and pay the most expensive parking in the world forever".
The fact that they can sell you a car without having to give you all of the terms and conditions is kinda nuts. Imagine if you went to buy a house and they just went "Nuh uh, pay first, we give you all the HOA rules and city ordinance laws you have to follow afterwards. What is in them? It's a mYsTeRy!".
Little look at Julian Assange. Look at North Korea. Look at porn. Look at open source encryption. Look at the tor network. Look at mesh wifi. Look at private dns. Look at ungoogled chromium or librewolf. Look at webgl. Look at a little porn again. Look at the stars for a while. Look at signal. Smoke a cigarette and finally look at yourself
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