THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Local authorities absolutely have jurisdiction in their own states what. The feds can't come in an illegally occupy whatever they want, like this is clearly stated in the constitution. You seem to be assuming that these politicians aren't doing anything because the law bit that's not true, it's because they're weak and don't care to stick their necks out. It might be harder to find a group of cops willing to go with you in Texas specifically, but this is happening in places like Minnesota where they should absolutely at minimum be forcing this into the courts because we see the feds lose every single fucking time. This I'd apologia for weakness, and this is only gonna dig us deeper as we sit back and accept that doing nothing is ok and a doing literally anything more than complaining and gesturing is too much to ask. We need to demand action, we see the inaction in Minnesota and its not like that stops the feds from opening BS investigations and probes into political enemies, even when they're fully complicit. Demand more, people, stop enabling this weakness to rot our country away.
They have jurisdiction, but not over everything. For example, a cop can't just waltz into a military base, even if it's within the area they're allowed to police.
This facility is a private prison, legally owned by a private company, who built the facility specifically for ICE. Cops can't enter your private property without permission or a warrant, whether you're an individual or a massive for-profit prison company that fucks people over on purpose to make a quick buck.
They also can't arrest you without probable cause of a legal violation. Aside from them generally just siding with ICE in the first place, this is why they legally cannot (and never do) arrest ICE officers during their duties, because their actions are considered federal law enforcement actions, even if those actions are just legalized gang violence and kidnapping.
Oh for sure, I do think they need to be at least trying to do as much as they can within the court system to make things harder for ICE and the administration in general, it's just that again, there's only so much they can do legally other than just... slow things down... because the court system is slow.
I'm not trying to justify their weakness, I'm simply explaining why they can't and won't be able to do anything you want them to do, at least not legally.
If I had my way, we'd take send the national guard and all local police forces, and throw every single ICE agent in jail, and try them all in court for every possible charge imaginable, but that's just not how the legal system works, so no elected official is going to try it, because:
It's not the situation I think either of us want to be in, but it's the situation we are in. As much as I wish more local politicians could magically, instantly decide to make federally allowed actions illegal when they harm people, they simply can't.