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[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 12 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I clicked one of the links, and read the study.

450ml of liquor per week isn't light to moderate by most definitions? If you don't drink 2 nights a week that's 5 medically significant binges per week, every week. One "drink" in this context is 1oz (~29ml). Most of the doctors I've been to, when asking how much you drink, will even ask of you have 15 drinks per week. They cut that off at 7+.

While a lot of us don't know the link to cancer, I'd imagine most of us know there's something there.

I'm fine with doing alcohol like we did cigarettes, I was just kinda shocked that they called "5 medically significant binges per week" light to moderate drinking??? Even when I was drinking an amount that people were talking about doing an intervention for, it was less than half of that (1oz (29.5ml) per day)

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

450ml of what? 1oz of what? 100% ethanol? Drinks and liquor vary extremely widely and has no definition.

[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Liquor is commonly understood to be 40-50% ABV

None of this is really exact anyway. This is what doctors seem to go on

  • 40%, 1.5oz liquor
  • 12% 5oz wine
  • 7%, 8oz malt liquoe
  • 5%, 12oz beer

The problem is the beer I usually drink is in a 24 ounce can, and has 9.8% abv, and I don't know a single person who would call that 4 drinks (which it is! One drink is .6oz of ethanol, and that can of beer has 2.4oz of ethanol)

Doctors try to get people to accurately report their lives because people aren't thinking about this. I remember there was a place (Scotland maybe?) where they put how many "Units" of alcohol were in drinks, which I think is a good idea for these kinds of things. A unit seemed to be that 0.6oz (~17ml) of ethanol you get if you do the math on the earlier measurements.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I like a drink (obviously) as part of enjoying food, cooking, hosting and manage the risk by never having more than one in a day (this is probably 2 'units' of alcohol if a cocktail or one if a glass of wine) but also not two days in a row, I try not to drink today if I did yesterday. Generally 3 drinks a week, 2 cocktails one glass of wine so 5 units. Sometimes less. I feel good physically, better than I did in the years I did not drink, but would not attribute it to drinking, we have more money now and better lifestyle overall, so slightly less stress.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago

450ml of liquor per week isn't light to moderate by most definitions?

If you read the one published by the WHO, It says "light" to "moderate" is less than 450ml, presumably meaning 450ml and over is considered "heavy" (which more or less lines up with 2 drinks a day.)

Generally, light is considered to be 1 drink a day, moderate is 1.5 and heavy is 2. So 1 drink a day is the cause of half of all alcohol-attributable cancers (according to the WHO).

[–] Today@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

People wanted to intervene because you were drinking one short shot per day?

Yep. Admittedly they didn't know how much I was drinking, just how often, compared to the fact that I only drink a couple times a month most of the time.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

While a lot of us don’t know the link to cancer,

WHO classifies alcohol as carcinogenic as tobacco and asbestos. This is not new or controversial.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37905315/

[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The comment this was a reply to was specifically about many Americans not knowing there's a link. I wasn't even disputing the link in the comment, more just pointing out that 2 cups of liquor seemed like a whole lot to be classed as "Light to moderate" drinking imo

Edit: The comment this is in response to links an article that states many Americans don't know there's a link between the two*