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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

... and the American people are feckless sheep

PS: although I must recognize that, since the murder of Renee Good, it does seem that some are waking up

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

I am impressed at the amount of downvotes. The US had crossed several thresholds now which would've (and should've) caused Civil wars a while ago or in other countries.

Downvoting the post above confirms it has not yet been understood where the US now stands.

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What actual things have happened since her killing to give you any hope of meaningful resistance in the US since then? Not (strictly) rhetorical.

To my mind, the minute the Trump regime feel the least bit threatened you'd see things like mass arrests and possibly martial law. But the American would be resistance is still holding out that the world, or the US at least, will still be there in a year so that they get to see if Trump will allow free and fair midterms.

[–] BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think it shows a strange effect about American geography. It's really hard to organize a meaningful, resilient, and camera-worthy resistance because we're so spread out. It's all about congregating at big cities, like LA, Portland or Minneapolis.

Like, if British people wanted to protest and resist in the streets, they go to London. All of them. It's accessible. Americans can't do that with Washington DC.

But I'm in Kansas City, and while our No Kings protests have had not-insignificant turnouts, it's not as easy or impactful because we had three protest cities across two-state suburban area. Can we get that many Kansas Citians to flock to Minneapolis to disrupt ICE ops? No, not really. It's why all the major protest and ICE disruptions happen in the biggest cities of the "blue"-est states.

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know about that, just five years ago Trump supporters managed to storm Capitol Hill – was pretty memorable and headline grabbing. Anti-Trump protestors can give whatever excuse they want for why they're not equally capable or why they wouldn't even something equally drastic, but the bottom line is that they don't. Presumably because they lack the Maga movements to take risks and not play nice.

The conflict level is simply too low. It doesn't take a million people to cause disruptions, but it takes escalation. Americans are too complacent to do that, a world war for instance are not high enough stakes – that's just another war on foreign soil, something the warrior caste will deal with.

It's simply going to take outside involvement – military and economic – to get rid of Trump.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 minutes ago

Charlie Kirk and other right wing stochastic terrorists recruited and bussed people to Washington with the express understanding of what was planned. All we need is one class traitor billionaire willing to do what they always accuse Soros of doing and it could legitimately make some change.

[–] BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, did the Jan 6 riots accomplish anything?

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

While objectives like overturning the election and assassinating unaligned congress people failed, the riots accomplished a few things. In addition to being an example of such a high profile attack on the opposing political side that Trump's opponents are uncapable of, these include:

  • Triggering a constitutional crisis (loss of control over the country's legislature).

  • Revealing external (to the rioters) support for extreme measures.

  • Signaling willingness within their own ranks to face very big risks to achieve their goals. Arguably, leading Biden to take a softer and more concilliatory approach to dealing with an overt coup attenpt (!!!) to avoid further conflict and civil unrest.

  • Over all emboldening Trump aligned militants.

Essentially attained but not seized on

  • Gained access to massive amounts of (presumably) sensitive legislative documents

  • Opportunity to attempt a prolonged occupation of the legislature and disrupting legislative work.

Aftermath

The rioters have since ostensibly been proclaimed national heroes by the current regime. Following the riot, the movement's ultimate goal of another term for Trump was achieved. It's disingenious to argue that the riot directly led Trump's 2024 win, but it's hard to argue that an attempted coup in his name foiled his reelection efforts. Rather, he ran from an unprecedented position of power thanks to Supreme Court decisions declaring him largely immune from prosecution.

I think the case for the J6 riots having no material significance for the political development in the US in the following time, is thin.

That doesn't mean that I think it's a blueprint for resistance against Trump. Rather, there are many reasons why one would not want to take ones queues from Proud Boys. But the bottom line is this: while a lot of people are demanding that resistance should be fought in a matter consistent with winning, know that you can't win without fighting.

Fighting doesn't equate killing people or storming the Capitol. It can also mean severe disruption of normal operations of the government through mostly non-violent means, like targeted strikes, mass disobedience and sabotage. Big No Kings style protests and marches are also legit forms of fighting, if they don't insist on not being disruptive and following directions from law enforcement. Notably, not all of the above require millions to travel from afar.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Discrediting the rule of law, as proven by Merrick Garland and the apathy by Biden.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Since Good's murder, I am finally starting to have hope of a successful American Revolution

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

And so are Canadians... yikes