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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

3 things

  1. Without the US, Europe has significant capability holes(satellite, logistics, ground launched missiles, nukes)

  2. Multiple smaller armies might be, in theory, an order of magnitude "stronger" than the Russian military but because of inefficiencies, overlap capabilities and lack of unified command structure and organizing, they are effectively a circus that cant do much.

  3. Not all Europe will react the same and with the same urgency. A crisis(like russian soldiers occupying a small Baltic town) by definition will create huge cracks within Europe.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

between the UK and France, and then Germany, Italy, Poland, Romania, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine point 1 is fairly well covered. Of course the US has more, but it's not a total wipeout without them.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Nukes is the least important part but even for nukes, numbers matter. It allows you to hit more targets with higher confidence that they wont be intercepted.

This is why China has gone into overdrive and pumping nukes like crazy, in order to reach relative equilibrium with the US and Russia.

Anyway, the amount of air refueling assets and flying radars Europe has are way fewer than needed because it was assumed that the US would be fighting alongside us. Same story with many other things.

Also because life is better in Europe, it is assumed there will be a lower political desire for casualties. Meanwhile for Russia, and especially rural Russia, going to war and even dying might be preferable for many people.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

No he has a point. Espescially regarding satellite tech, the EU is woefully underequipped. Positioning systems is one thing, comms the next and in this case since you need quantity for 24/7 coverage, having more is definetly decisive