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[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm anti-religion if it's used to justify atrocities and/or thrust upon society. If it's for their own internal peace and philosophy, then I have less qualms. But admittedly it's rarely ever used in that way, and usually coercion and power are the main drivers , especially in organised religion

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Soooo... Since its used to justify atrocities and is thrust upon society, you're anti religion?

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Anti-religion as a means to hurt others, yes. I'd not ever say I'm pro religion but I don't mind religious people or people having a religion. I don't judge them just because they have different feelings about God, only by their actions.

Edit: I should say I'm atheist and a scientist but understand some people need faith as a means of explanation for their world and whatnot. It's not for me. All religions CAN be read and practiced peacefully if they choose to be. It's not the religion itself that is fundamentally wrong, but the way it's twisted to justify actions.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey man, you said people are either pro, or anti.

I'm just being the one to hold your feet to the fire.

it's not the religion itself that is fundamentally wrong, but the way it's twisted to justify actions.

Would you say Scientology is not fundamentally wrong, and that the people who benefit financially are twisting L. Ron Hubbard's cosmic wisdom?

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hah, hey look if it helps some people than yes, it's fine as long as it's not affecting non-believers rights to do what they want too. It's no more wrong than any other (as far fetched as it may be but that's for the follower to decide). Edit: I also said somewhere that life is a series of grey areas too - everything is a spectrum

Those who benefit overtly financially from taking advantage of people in a weakened state are...morally destitute imo. Look, everyone needs a job and deserves to be paid a fair wage for the work they perform but if that job is ripping people off, that's where I draw the line. Price gouging is the issue more than the job itself and also tax-exempt status of many of these organisations. But now we're broaching into other realms..