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[–] Greddan@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's not even remotely true. I think someone's been suckling on the propaganda teet. Tell me, have you ever even been to another country?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I misspoke when I said "most". I'm just saying that with all its faults, there are many worst places to live in.

Certain countries are in the middle of civil wars, even genocide. Being gay is a death sentence in others while women rights in many basically don't exist.

We also don't have open borders, it's not like people get a list with every country and all they have to do is pick.

It strikes me as first world problems and not understanding the actual living conditions in half the world or how immigration works to say "why would anyone come here".

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't agree with the commenter but I would argue that the wealth disparity in the US means that the top jobs earn more than they would in most of rest of the world

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/minimum-wage-by-country

It's true for the low-end jobs, not just top earners. There are Uber drivers that are making more then they were being a doctor in their birth country.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most countries have terrible living condition and poverty wages, even for doctors and engineers.

This link makes the point that minimum wage is low across a lot of the world.

Most great places don't let people from poor places come in easily.

It also seems to show that the US wouldn't be in the "great" grouping of that list, it would be the next tier down, wouldn't it?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Look, if the minimum wage is half a dollar, I doubt the doctors are making 100k a year. I don't consider us a great country, but it's easier to immigrate here than Luxembourg which is my point. It's not the best but it's easily better than half the world, and the best places have stricter requirements that make it impossible for most. Mind you, even immigrating here was hard before trump, just easier than better places.

It just seems hollow to tell people to stay home and find somewhere better, when their choice are between here and Iran for example.

I also don't think it's fair, the current state of the world is a direct consequence of the colonial and imperialistic mindset. You still have to be realistic and honest about it.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has probably never been to another county.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I've been to countries where half the population was living in shacks with no running water and making 30$ a week. I can't imagine telling those people that they have it better.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they don’t live under a dictator they are.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Most do. I think maybe you should visit other countries. You are talking from a position of privilege.

https://www.democracywithoutborders.org/36317/autocracies-outnumber-democracies-for-the-first-time-in-20-years-v-dem/