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Infrastructure is composed of public and private physical structures such as roads, railways, bridges, tunnels, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, and telecommunications.

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The country’s civil engineers agree: $1.5 trillion didn’t produce good infrastructure (t4america.org)

submitted 4 days ago by andybytes@programming.dev to c/infrastructure@sh.itjust.works

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Despite historic levels of investment in infrastructure over the last twenty years, America’s 2025 infrastructure grades for roads, bridges, safety, and transit look mostly the same. No one should consider putting a single penny more into a program with such bad results. Unfortunately, raising new money is at the top of the list for our country’s association of civil engineers.

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[–] andybytes@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We can’t even afford to maintain the system that we currently have. ASCE says we need to spend $87 billion per year from 2018 to 2038 just for basic rehabilitation of highways. By comparison, states reported in 2022 that they spent ~$89 billion collectively across all capital costs for roads.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

People don’t want to pay taxes, but expect services like roads anyway. It’s a fantasy world. 🤷‍♂️

The gas tax hasn’t been raised since 1993. The current federal administration would rather spend $100 million on ad campaigns than infrastructure.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People don't want to pay taxes to politicians they don't trust for wars they don't want to fight. We don't live in a stable society, some are walking contradictions via shallow understandings because they live in a world of contradiction. Shrugged sholders "such is life"..... At least thats my take on taxes. Why gawd did yankeeland destroy its rail system.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I thought they spent $250m on a single ad campaign. Surely they spent more on all ad campaigns combined.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Round up to 90B, divide by 50 for 1.8B, divide by 62 for average number of counties and that's about 30m per each county, which seems quite excessive. This has the cost of repaving a road at 280k/mile, while Michelin says it costs a million dollars per mile to repave, and 3x that to rebuild the road. I'm willing to guess that most counties have more than 30 miles of road. We also have not discussed bridges and over passes yet.

Sliced again by person, about $264 per human.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is like the military industrial complex for roads. hahahaha I think I got what you are saying. Too bad the dollar is half of its value today. Add another layer to the shit cake.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 3 days ago

It's absolutely shitty. You could just refer to it as the automobile industrial complex.

The American lifestyle relies on cars. I live less than 10 miles from my work and have to drop my daughter off at school on the way. Just taking the bus to work adds an hour to my trip, not to mention there is no public transit that will get me within a mile of her school in an hour. The entire routine would cost 2 hours daily and be more expensive than driving. This is not to mention that I need a car for work. Regardless of all these facts, I still need to use roads and bridges.