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The US Attacked my country... (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 days ago by NONE_dc@lemmy.world to c/actually_infuriating@lemmy.world

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I don't care about Maduro, as far as I'm concerned, they can shoot him if they want. What matters to me is walking through the streets of my city and seeing the faces of fear on my neighbors. The military patrolling to prevent looting due to panic. It's a collective hangover, a horrible one.

It's 2016 all over again. It's seeing despair entering the circulatory system of all Venezuelans, only now it's more sudden, and we are painfully aware of it.

This is far from improving, and we know it.

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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I personally am not fearing for my life (yet) due to him enacting violence in my city (yet). Actually that's kind of not true with ICE, but yeah I agree it's not quite the same, and citizens of Caracas are suffering more right now.

However, there's a longer history that US citizens have had to deal with, and we hate him. Hundreds of thousands or millions of people cut off from food, medicine, housing. Millions of job losses due to his corruption with Musk. There's about 700 other things that we've personally dealt with. But yeah, in this exact moment, we haven't had our city bombed and our leader abducted (yet), so acutely OP dislikes America maybe more.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

That’s not true. The US returned him to power.

If they hated him as much as you claim he wouldn’t have even ran the second time because you’d have done something about it. Certainly he wouldn’t have won.

Nope, you don’t all hate him. Furthermore you as a nation are responsible for his actions.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who said "we all"?

It's about 31% who voted for him, about 35% that didn't vote at all, and the rest that voted for someone else. There are extreme gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement efforts in place, and straight up rigging in some cases, so it's not even just a fair contest.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So by voter majority at the least you don’t hate him. Those who didn’t vote obviously don’t hate him enough.

But yeah once again we need to stop and think about US citizens while their country hurts someone else. Because they can’t get off their arse to vote.

There’s a reason people are tired of Americas shit.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They had an election where choices were "literally hitler, but orange" and "a woman who didn't talk strong enough about palestine".

And they chose Hitler.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

it was mostly misogyny/.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Gerrymandering has no effect on presidential elections and bringing that up makes you look clueless.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

its mostly done by extreme voter suppression by GOP controlled states, that where all the problems occur with voting. right wing propaganda is just icing on top to make it palatable.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Sure. But gerrymandering refers to redrawing congressional districts and has no effect on presidential elections.