this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2025
829 points (85.0% liked)

Comic Strips

21005 readers
2998 users here now

Comic Strips is a community for those who love comic stories.

The rules are simple:

Web of links

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yup "Equalists" are just the same as all lives matter folks completely missing the point and trying to poison the well.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's like saying "I want everyone to be equal" and saying both men and women should be given a 10% pay raise to account for the gender pay gap.

Sure, you raised women's wages to cover the gap... but now the gap remains because you also increased men's by the same amount.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago

That's false. If you want to make everyone equal, you close the pay gap.

To me, egalitarianism is making sure neither group is treated unfarly, so they should both receive the same pay for the same work, but also the same punishment for the same crime, etc.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

The gap doesn't just remain in that scenario, you actually increase the gap making it even worse.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago

If feminists are allowed to be egalitarian but focus on issues which harm women, others (whatever label they have) can be egalitarian with a different focus. But it needs to be real equality, not a deflection, like the person in the comic.

Where it goes wrong is in telling people they can't focus on specific issues close to their heart, or in telling people that since legal equality has largely been achieved somewhere there's nothing else to do.

"All lives matter" was an obvious reaction to a slogan which, to all but existing allies, seemed to be excluding something obvious. BLM people saw rampant violence against black people as evidence that society didn't think black lives mattered. But that's not something that comes through when it's distilled to a slogan.

The UK currently has an "end violence against women and girls" campaign even though men are more often victims of violence. There are reasons to focus on violence against women, but there are also reasons to focus on other things... there is room for nuance here.

[–] MrChewy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

"So you are a (rule) bender! You traitor, I devoted my life to you!"

(attacks the blood bender since that's a great idea)