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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And ads that are better at evading the software.

Yeah, no. Ad servers are not initiating incoming network requests to your devices. Your devices are openly asking for the ads, and it's not an obfuscated secret, it's a standard network request. This evasion is imagined fiction. It isn't an arms race, there's never been a time when ad blockers stopped working and had to change how they function to beat the ads again.

There's no way to not watch the ad other than to stop watching the movie.

other than to stop watching the movie.

stop watching the movie.

Your terms are acceptable.

high tech advancement in advertising was pioneered over 40 years ago

Huh? What exactly is the "high tech advancement" you're referring to? Filming a product in a movie? Seems kinda low tech...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ad servers are not initiating incoming network requests to your devices.

They're piggybacking in on intended content. Or they're gating content behind ad walls. Or they're initiating requests on channels not yet flagged as ad servers. Or just permeating your electronics through the OS vendor, the SMS protocol, email, you name it.

What exactly is the “high tech advancement” you’re referring to?

Sarcasm, mate. You simply include the commercial as part of the main body of media.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or they're initiating requests on channels not yet flagged as ad servers.

You're misinformed. Reality is they aren't initiating requests at all.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess ads just show up on your system by magic, then? They've overcome the need for IP protocols?

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you just trolling? The client initiates the requests, not the ad server. Might want to brush up on those IP protocols.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The client initiates the requests, not the ad server.

And then the server feeds data to the client with AJAX calls and similar functions to fetch additional material.

And ad blockers try to distinguish between secondary calls gathering real content and calls that are just serving ads (YouTube ad blocking being the epitome of this challenge).

But I'm sure you're a smart, sophisticated computer guy who doesn't need to play dumb on this.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm glad we're on the same page now 👍

Except you're still wrong, a server cannot make an AJAX call to a client. The client has to make it. You keep incorrectly trying to frame it like the server initiates these connections, instead of just admitting you didn't know what you were talking about.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

a server cannot make an AJAX call to a client

I never said it did.

The server feeds the HTML/JavaScript/etc which contains AJAX calls that automatically launch

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Great lol, so we are in agreement with my original comment.