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Japan’s demographic crisis is deepening faster than expected, with the number of births this year on track to fall below even the government’s most pessimistic projections.

Archived version: https://archive.is/20251228215131/https://slguardian.org/japans-birth-rate-set-to-break-even-the-bleakest-forecasts/


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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another stupid article assuming that a population reduction is a bad thing.

No, no, of course, just keep increasing the human population until it crashes. Then it'll be an actual problem.

The numbers look bad because increasing population increases the GDP, and GDP has become the archetypal example of what happens when you turn a metric into a goal.

[–] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's not just about GDP, if your retired population starts to outnumber your working population by a large amount, who will support all those old people? Nowadays children can't care for their parents because they have to go to their 9-5 every day, so we rely on other people to do that job for us, and if they disappear then what? The problem isn't the deflating population per se, it's the inverted demographic pyramid and our work culture

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is made up. We're more productive than ever and should have plenty of leisure time and plenty of safety nets for old age....but that wealth has all been siphoned off by a very few. The solution to this is tax the wealthy.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"The problem that historians, economics, geographers and other researchers have studied for decades is made up. Trust me bro"

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, two easy solutions:

Immigrant labor

Cut the toxic work culture, go to a 20-30 hour work week, and give people time to take care of their parents.

Why can't they do that? Ask your economy priests why they can't do that. Get back to me.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not all economists are capitalists or assholes. Many economists do propose such things. It's the government that doesn't implement them. Economists are real scientists, and shunning their work in such a blanket way is uncomfortably reminiscent of the kind of anti-science "I do my own research" thinking we see on the right. Economists disagree with each other on all sorts of things, because it's an evolving field, but that doesn't mean it deserves to be analogized to something like religion.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

economists are real scientists

Absolutely, almost as much as L Ron hubbard was!

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What makes someone a scientist to you? And why don't economists fit that? It's such an interesting take, especially since (given we're on Lemmy lol) I assume you're coming from either a communist or socialist standpoint, both of which are economic theories with many economists backing them. So it's not like all economists are playing on the team against you - although maybe you have a much more interesting take on all this than I'm imagining.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Turns our my definition if 'scientists' is pretty long and I'm lazy, but the short version is: person who tries to find the truth of material reality while mitigating/without bias as to final result of their inquiry

And I didn't say they weren't. Economists are almost as much scientists as L Ron Hubbard!

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I suppose if I take you literally then, sure. But of course your implication in that comparison is that economists are not a variety of scientist that should be listened to/taken seriously/respected etc. Especially since you used "priest" as an epithet, which would imply that you either think economics is pointless to think scientifically about, or that it is possible to think scientifically about economics but economists are doing it incorrectly, i.e in a priest-like way. Or some third thing I haven't considered. This is what I'm curious to hear more about your reasoning for. But I understand I'm just an internet stranger and it may be a lot to write out.

I said what I said, read it how you like.

So the problem isn't "not enough babies" it's "not enough babies to keep both our xenophobia and our toxic work culture"?

Oh no. Whichever you choose, I'm sure the world will mourn the other with you.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Kurzgesagt had an nice video about this, it has a huge imact on culture too. With old people not able to transmit their knowledge and crafts.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don't forget that immigrants are bad.

/s for f sake

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

True, dropped that, my bad

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

'It's only a problem for economics.'

'But what about the economics?'