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The USA routinely does military exercises in the Taiwan strait. China has a right to defend itself from US+Taiwan aggression.
And to defend myself I simulate how to invade my neighbor country... Sure.... "Defense"...
The post literally says:
Cutting Taiwan from US support in case of conflict is famously NOT invasion, it's defense against US attacks.
Sure, buddy... And Russia is also just defending themselves from NATO by invading Ukraine.
Even Xi said, he wants to rule Taiwan, if necessary, with military force, so please quit the bullshit... Thanks.
Can you provide a source for this? I'm very interested
Honestly it's a reading between the lines. Xi says:
https://www.cfr.org/blog/what-xi-jinpings-major-speech-means-taiwan
The "peaceful reunification" is aspirational, not practical. The practical is "take resolute action to utterly defeat any attempt toward 'Taiwan independence'" and we see that with this military action. Consensus among CCP members is that peaceful reunification is unlikely to happen and that military force will be required (see the book "Leadership and the Rise of Great Powers" by a member of the CCP).
So, he absolutely did NOT say that, huh, whaddya know!
The literal words of Xi Jinping: "advance peaceful national reunification"
Lemmy libs: "[he] said he wants to rule Taiwan, if necessary, with military force"
Like I said, I recommend reading literature on the matter from CCP members to get more context on the matter. It won't help you shit post for karma but it does help one make sense of things.
Literature on the matter from CCP members is irrelevant to the original claim that "Xi Jinping said he wants to rule Taiwan, if necessary, with military force", though. You can make excuses for disinformation if you want because it suits your point of view, but that's literally false.
I wasn't the one who made that claim of Xi, I was the one who showed up with receipts and said you would have to read between the lines to arrive at a similar conclusion: that Xi & the party will use force if necessary to achieve the goal of reunification. Do you not think that is more relevant?
Oh, so like when the USA does the same to Venezuela and Cuba it's just self defense like Trump says?
The difference being that the USA actively murders hundreds of thousands of people in both countries through economic sanctioning, whereas China has enacted no economic blockade and is in fact Taiwan's largest economic partner.
Yes, that is good of China to not act like the USA. Which is why it is concerning when they start to act like a more competent version of the USA.
To cut off the island from outside support in a conflict with...who?
Conflict =/= invasion, though?
So we're in agreement with the obvious fact that China is running drills to cut off Taiwan from external aid in case it has a conflict with Taiwan, right?
In response to Taiwan buying $11bn in US weapons, China carries out a military exercise in which it simulates a Taiwan encirclement to prevent it from US military involvement, yes
US military involvement in case of what?
We gotta make sure this passes the clown captcha test. Otherwise it has the same energy as "the American civil war was just for states rights"
In case of military conflict between Taiwan and China, what's your point? You just assume that it's a Chinese military invasion of Taiwan because you're a propagandized westerner, but it could very well be an economic blockade of the China sea by US + regional puppets
Mf, that's YOU lmao
Can you explain how encircling Taiwan helps with that blockade? Keep in mind there are actual us military bases in japan, and Japan is not the one being encircled. You'd think if the intention was in defense of an American offensive the island with the military bases would receive the most focus. It's not, which suggests that it isn't a defensive exercise with the intent of counteracting an American offensive.
This whole thing is a response to Taiwan spending $11bn in US weapons, of course the exercise is about Taiwan, what are you talking about?
You added an "s" at the end of puppets. That implies your proposal involves multiple countries. In your scenario, do you think it's wise to ignore neighboring countries with us military bases?
Where do you think the logistics routes for a potential blockade of the China sea would focus on? Imo military bases are a lot more important than a country just buying American weapons, because assets on an American base are in direct control of the Americans. If your proposed alternative reason is right, why the focus on Taiwan and not other countries?
There's also the little note of China building large, specialized naval craft coincidentally perfect for moving military forces onto taiwans beaches.
You do know that the world isn't black and white, right? Both sides can be bad ...
Both sides can be bad, doesn't mean both sides are equally bad. China hasn't carried out a military action in 4 decades.
So they should get to annex one little country, as a treat? Lol
(Also depending how you define military action, thats false. They keep having border scuffles with India for starters.)
But China has not annexed Taiwan, you're talking in hypotheticals. If China invades Taiwan tomorrow, maybe we can discuss that, but as of now China hasn't done anything like that.
Why TF would they do exercises about how to blockade the island, then?
Because, as the article itself that OP linked says, Taiwan just purchased $11bn in US weapons?
Gee. I wonder why you'd suddenly buy weapons.....maybe because you're being threatened by the neighboring country?
Just to make sure you're logically consistent: you support North Korea's policy of strong militarization in defense against US + SK? Or is this something you reserve to US allies?
Any country is allowed to defend itself. That includes North Korea, Venezuela, Ukraine, etc.
North Korea has other significant problems, including brain drain and lack of tillable soil to feed it's people. It's why it's leadership continually antagonizes its neighbors to get concessions of food.
United States Imperialism is fucked as well, but America has been fucked in the head for a long time with rampant military industrial complex spending and warmonger leadership.
The difference between you and me is that I don't gloss over any country's failings.
Huh, what brain drain does NK have? What's its emigration rates?
Maybe North Korea wouldn't have problems to feed its people if it weren't wholly sanctioned by the west, though, plenty of countries with barely tillable soil who can feed themselves through food imports. Can you explain what you mean "concessions of food"?
The difference between you and me is that you apply equal degrees of responsibility to the most powerful empire in the world and the ones suffering under its thumb
North Korea has lost nearly all of its expertise in manufacturing, development, etc.
NK was a powerhouse around 50-60 years ago, but significantly stupid decision making has led to them falling behind South Korea.
Sanctions are a good chunk of their problems, but NK has a lot of failed leadership and is an example of a failed communist nation just as much as the United States is an example of a failed/failing Democratic Republic.
Also, "emigration rates" is a bullshit metric. You CAN'T leave NK without special permission from the government. That's like arguing a prison is doing great because none of the inmates are leaving.
So... they don't have a brain drain? Per Cambridge dictionary: "the situation in which large numbers of educated and very skilled people leave their own country to live and work in another one where pay and conditions are better"
Significantly stupid decision making such as being economically sanctioned by almost the entire world and not receiving billions in US aid conditional to murdering communists?
"I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!"
"I'm just commenting the letter N. I don't know what the next commenter might reply!"
"No, of course our reactor needs pure uranium. But it's for peaceful purposes."
By your logic, really you shouldn't complain no matter how close our vastly superior stealth bombers fly to that shitty dam.
China is literally doing this in response to Taiwan escalating by purchasing $11bn in US weapons, it's specified on the article itself. China did not start this
Bro I'm not circling my neighbors house because he bought a new rifle. Have you tried living in a democracy?
I would certainly react negatively if my neighbor who previously started a war against me and declares ownership of my home bought $11bn in weapons from the USA.
The amount of anti-China programming in this comments section is crazy. Thanks for setting the record straight
Yeah, there is the aggressor and the defender and they are equally bad!!!!!!!!!!1111111