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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I haven't been to a phone store in 15 years

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm fairness the only time I remember being in a phone store in the last decade was because I got an esim when I got my new phone, phone company didn't send me a qr code to get the esim and I lost access to my account because I couldn't receive an SMS because my old physical SIM was disabled.

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

for the average user

points at Lineage boot logo

not you

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Speaking of Lineage...

I wonder, how long will it be before you're not "allowed" to install esims on phones with custom firmware?

Either due to the esim application not installing/running on modified firmware, or the phone will just not allow it.

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If that stops Lineage from being practical on that phone, then fuck that phone in particular.

If eventually, that is every phone, then grab a hotspot and get tethering.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

We are well on our way. The EU is holding the manufacturer liable if a cellphone radio is "modded", thus manufacturers are blocking the ability to unlock bootloaders.

If eventually, that is every phone, then grab a hotspot and get tethering.

I did have a chuckle at the thought of having a cellphone for your (modded) cellphone... but then I thought about it: "meh, yeah... it's not a bad idea. I'd do it."

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Well then goal achieved, custom roms will be even harder to use, and from when I've seen I've got every reason to belive that every phone will get to that point.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In most countries, getting a phone in a store is something done only by people happy to pay lots extra for a little human help, surely? The average user now signs up online and gets a phone in the mailbox.

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I asked my mom for her SIM card, she'd ask for her purse so she could attempt to find a credit card that doesn't exist.

She has no idea how a phone works in any capacity. I'm not being insulting about it, I am informing you of blatant and honest truth.

My cousins, people my age are a hard maybe, I know two family members who went in-store recently. They treat their phones like cars. They use them and that's as deep as it goes.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not so informative without any idea of your age and thereby the ages of your examples.

Many of them could still follow the assembly/card insertion instruction sheet with pictures that comes in the mail from the phone company, even without knowing which part is called a SIM.

And maybe your area's phone stores aren't as notorious for overcharging as the UK's.

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm not teaching a class, here, bud. If you need me to tell you that running LineageOS isn't somehow a skill equivalent to walking into a store, then we have some serious cultural differences between the US and EU regarding average luddite phone ownership.

The stores don't charge for helping you, no. It's the same cost for service instore as out, at least in my experience. For all I know Tmobile started charging 'install fees' for putting sim cards in.

America, age 37, nerd-coded

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 22 hours ago

Last time I went into a store was 3 years ago, specifically looking for an iPhone 13 mini as an upgrade to my iPhone XR. They didn't have any in stock, attempted to sell me a few different, more expensive devices, then just told me to try online.

Ended up going with a different provider.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I go to a phone store every time I get a new phone!

checks when my last phone was bought… 2018

I go to a phone store every six or seven years!

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 15 hours ago

6,7!

Kill me, kill me slowly.