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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What would you say to people like someone I know (who gets all information from fb and xitter) who insists that we arent in capitalism, we are in corporatism, and TRUE free market capitalism is the end all be all (Ancap, Basically).

I explain over and over how it DOESNT work because of capitalisms inherent nature to create monopolies and the ownership class but they just say a free market cant have a monopoly. I disagree. But theyre not really worth arguing with, lol.

Side note, they are poor and make financially stupid decisions, generally they think theyre right about everything because they watch youtube. Its frustrating.

If this person doesn't trust you, you probably can't get deep-seated beliefs out of them.

If they trust you, you have to make the slowly nudge them towards making the conclusions themselves. Ask a lot of questions, talk about how reigning in the corporations rather than unshackling them would be better at ending corporatism, and over time move towards more fundamental questions.

The ability to persuade someone of a viewpoint depends on how many assumptions, previously arrived at conclusions, and morals you share.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Louis Theroux their ass? (Keep asking "why?" type questions as if you'll join their side of they can just explain it, but the real goal is to unpick their fuzzy logic by getting stupid to argue with itself)

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thatd probably work but I dont have time for that, they would argue literally all day haha

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Step 1. Ask a question, and make it surprisingly genuine.

Step 2. Don't react. Don't retract but don't attack. There's only one rule from here on out. Keep. Eye. Contact.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nobody does to be fair, other than Louis himself, and his interviews take like 5 hours