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    [โ€“] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 101 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    I'm only 4 months into Linux, and apt is my comfort zone. Checking out other distros that use something else has me running away like:

    [โ€“] palordrolap@fedia.io 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    YSK/PSA: If you're on Mint, Mint's apt is not Debian's apt and while they work similarly for common use cases, they diverge pretty quickly beyond that. Both are installed by default but Mint's takes precedence.*

    Case in point: I was looking for which package - specifically one that was not yet installed - contains a certain command line tool and Mint's apt search does not find it. Debian's does. **

    On the other hand, Mint's apt has way more subcommands than the default one, which have been useful on occasion.

    * Mint's is at /usr/local/bin/apt and Debian's is at /usr/bin/apt; The default user $PATH puts /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin.

    ** FWIW, the tool is/was sponge and it's in the moreutils package.

    [โ€“] Colloidal@programming.dev 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

    Just use aptitude and be happy.

    Disclaimer: while aptitude was originally designed to replicate the apt CLI interface, I have never run the search command through it. The TUI is marvelous, though.

    [โ€“] debil@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    Nowadays apt supports deleting dangling config files with apt purge "~c" so no need to have aptitude for that feature. However, aptitude why <package> is pretty handy, and if you bump into dependency problems aptitude is quite capable of suggesting valid solutions.

    Disclaimer: I've never used aptitude's TUI.

    [โ€“] bobo1900@startrek.website 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    I wonder why apt search on ubuntu and debian must be so bad: on mint each package has a single line and an easy letter telling you if the program is installed or not. On debian/ubuntu each program takes multiple lines, are all green and the only way to distinguish installed ones is to look for an (installed) string at the end of the first line. I like Mint's apt version so much

    [โ€“] waz@feddit.uk 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    I wonder how this is implemented in LMDE?

    [โ€“] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 7 hours ago

    LMDE's system is the same as regular Mint. I've been on LMDE for a few years but was on regular before that.

    [โ€“] Laser@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    pacman is very fast and handy. The (in)famous pacman -Syu had you system completely up to date in record time.

    Sometimes I miss its speed and simplicity

    [โ€“] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

    And here's me with my yay

    [โ€“] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    paru entered the chat (doesn't even need -Syu).

    I love paru, but I think my favorite thing about it is that it isn't yay.

    Back when i started using Arch Yay was mega popular so I tried it. Its great, I loved it, shouldn't be a surprise I love paru too. But Yay was always my only Go app, so I'd end up installing Golag, which is gigantic, just to use yay.

    [โ€“] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    You can basically take that statement and replace โ€œaptโ€ with โ€œwhatever the first package tool I usedโ€ and it would be true for anyone.

    [โ€“] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

    tell me you have never run slackware witout telling me you have never run slackware.

    [โ€“] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    I started with Ubuntu in the days of apt-get, and boy am I happy I got to use packman now and never add another custom repository ever again

    [โ€“] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 18 hours ago

    My first package manager was YaST, then RPM, then APT. Apt rules, and while Iโ€™ve tried some more, Iโ€™m not afraid to say APT became my comfort zone.

    [โ€“] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    don't let this type of bantering concern you

    we are all just splitting hairs and knocking each other's preferences when it is basically trivial. Like BMW and Mercedes drivers trying to one up who drives the superior German car

    [โ€“] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Thatโ€™s easy Mercedes hasnโ€™t made the superior car since the 80โ€™s

    [โ€“] tomiant@piefed.social 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 7 points 19 hours ago

    You seem to have misspelled vim.

    [โ€“] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y

    =

    sudo dnf update -y

    For most systems. If you can get apt you can get any of them.

    [โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    The feds don't want you to know this but you can just put "-U" at the end of sudo apt upgrade and it updates before upgrading.

    [โ€“] Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
    [โ€“] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 7 points 16 hours ago

    I should really get around to RTFM.

    [โ€“] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    If they are suppressing this, what else arenโ€™t they telling us

    [โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

    vim has a built-in autocomplete you can use by pressing ctrl-n during interactive mode.

    [โ€“] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    This gif makes me irrationally angry.

    [โ€“] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

    I almost used this godzilla gif to illustrate my point instead. Maybe you'll enjoy it more.

    [โ€“] tomiant@piefed.social 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

    See, now why did you have to ruin these last few days of peace for me like that?

    [โ€“] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    At least it wasn't Godzookie.

    [โ€“] udon@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    Don't panic, apt+flatpak does everything very well, if all you need is a working computer. If you need a hobby, try nix or guix

    For me, pacman is my comfort zone. Fast, reliable and easy to handle. But apt was it for a long time as well.

    [โ€“] devfuuu@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Exactly what I feel when I look or have to interact with anything that doesn't have pacman ๐Ÿ˜…

    [โ€“] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    I have to admit that I love the "pacman" pun quite a bit, which is nearly enough by itself to convince me to try it. One day. Maybe.

    [โ€“] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    I canโ€™t lie, thatโ€™s one of the reasons I moved over to CachyOS a few months back. Itโ€™s not the only reason, but itโ€™s been my favourite distro for sure that Iโ€™ve tried. Itโ€™s the first one that really felt good to me.

    [โ€“] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

    It's really a great distro, I've been using it fulltime on laptop and PC for over a year. Best one I've tried so far and for some reason it's less buggy than EndeavourOS was for me. The only thing I don't like about it is the name.