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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Prohibition is entirely irrelevant, I never said to ban Alcohol i said it should be far more restrictive. Yet we do still have laws restricting alcohol like you point out, with it being you need to be 21.

Cool, you ever try buying a firearm? It's a lot easier to get alcohol. No law you can dream up, short of an entire ban and then a forced door to door confiscation is going to stop violent people from being violent. Even if you did pull it off, they'll still use knives, hammers, their fists, their cars.

You can also look at car related deaths due to alcohol, compare a lax laws and restrictive state like Wisconsin versus Minnesota, which has far more consequences for drinking while driving.

Lol that shit isn't stopping anyone from driving drunk, murder is already illegal, it doesn't stop people from doing it.

You don't get rid of guns, you heavily restrict them, require a purpose, and also have to adhere to quite a few rules for the privilege.

And how do you propose that? You know how many firearms are in civ hands in the USA? 450+ million.

Our current firearm laws are an absolute joke, and the gun death/crime rate shows.

66+% is suicide. 5% is domestic violence, 5% cops killing people, 14% homicides, 10% is the rest, DGUs, accidents, etc.

There actually are quite a few examples that you could look at, for instance Switzerland has a comparable gun ownership percent. Yet they don't have school shootings, gun violence, and all the other problems that USA does.

Yes because I forgot how much Switzerland doesn't have any safety nets at all. And they have a huge issue with people becoming homeless and gang violence as well. Yep totally comparable.

I really really wonder why that is.

You know why it is. You just want to burry your head in the sand and scream it's the guns...and not the example you just gave that says otherwise.

I personally don't care to argue with you, because no matter how many sources or stats that I showed you, you would never care.

Considering all the stats in the world will not magically prove anything, because the US is not comparable to any of the countries you would call out. Because the countries you will try and use have safety nets and give a shit about their citizens. Just like you're about to do....

So, if you actually cared about gun safety and having proper restrictions and laws on them, go look at literally any other country and how they handle guns, because this is such a uniquely American problem with such an easy solution that you just don't want to accept.

Yup, like I said.

Here's one for you. Brazil or Mexico. Civ gun laws banned. Go tell me how little firearm homicides they have. I'll wait.