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We once denied the suffering of animals in pain. As AIs grow more complex, we run the danger of making the same mistake

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Where do we draw the line though? Humans assign emotions to all kinds of inanimate things: plush animals, the sky, dead people, fictional characters etc. We can't give all of those the rights of a conscious being, so we need to have some kind of objective way to look at it.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In some parts of the world women aren’t considered fully human. So apparently the line ISN’T human at all for rights. It’s already no where close to objective.

Since we already do not give full autonomy and therefore human rights to fully conscious humans this is kind of a pointless question in my eyes.

Because of this, please forgive some of us for not trusting the rest of you with your objectivity.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

So what conclusion do you draw from this? If humans can't be trusted to make any judgement, literally anything should be considered to be capable of suffering, including pebbles, rainbows and paper bags? Seems like an impractical way of living.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If someone claims feeling in a mere concept (without a body in a location).. I would find it very difficult to take seriously. But I must admit that's just my intuition.

I see nothing special in human meat that couldn't be be significantly replicated by electronics, software, gears, etc. Consciousness is an imergent property.

I fear that non-human, conscious creatures must fight us for those rights.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago

There’s people out here walking around without an internal dialogue.

It’s so alien to me they may as will be a robot.