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Ahh, so you finally admit being LGBT+ ISN'T A "CHOICE," but instead who you actually are at birth!
That premise is central to my syllogism
So then why specifically mention LGBTT+?
Oh, I specifically mentioned it because lots of people seem to think you can and should be proud to be LGBT+, eg 'pride' month and everything
Lots of people think they should be proud to be white - so much so that we have the very post under which we are discussing this topic where someone is falsely claiming to be such. THAT would have made far more sense to use. It seems to me that you're telling yourself that you're making a valid point, but instead you're merely revealing your own bias.
You're getting me wrong - I don't think anyone should be proud to be anything they didn't put effort into. All I want is consistency.
Yet you specifically went after a particular group that's consistently marginalized. I might have believed what you're claiming had you mentioned multiple examples, but you didn't.
I can mention multiple examples if you like.
All are not anything to be proud of in themselves, but only when society makes it take effort to be that.
Majority/minority status has a lot to do with it.
Chinese pride for the country of China? Ethnic nationalism. Chinese pride in a city like Chicago where they're a small minority - well that's a different beast entirely. Because again, "pride" is about visibility, it's the opposite of "shame." And Shame has been used as a cudgel for a long time - on minorities, not on majorities, despite white people's persecution complex.
Swap the word "pride" for "visibility" and your argument is dead.
Queer visibility ≠ ethnic nationalism.