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It's been like that for a while (how did they get stomach chattle slavery, or the native genocide, or murdering brown people around the globe like Nam?), it's the reason the rest of the world is very wary of Americans even if they don't come in tanks and jets. Even Western Europeans are wary of Americans at this point, and they're basically the same community!
I think that Roman Catholicism and offshoots (not the message of Jesus, but the unholy creation of the empire) are partly to blame, primarily the disinfo of Paul, the fed, with his "faith without works" and "you'll be saved if you become a man worshipping polytheist!". Ideology is very malleable, so we can do something about it, but Nietzsche already pointed to the struggle like 200 years ago and a solution proposed by the locals with local ideological tools hasn't been found yet. Islam is the path forward for the West (and the rest of the world), but ofc you hate to hear it, even if it would offer an ideological framework based on the belief in God and objective morality (you gotta act right to save yourself, more or less Jesus' message for everyone who's actually read the Sermon of the Mount, for instance)... don't forget that that gut reaction has been fostered by the powers that be in the same way that it was for the Japanese, the Vietnamese, the natives, the Africans, and now the Mexicans and Chinese. Maybe there's something there, huh?
... wut.
If anything, Atheism is the way forward.
Atheism is no way, it's intellectually lazy, and cowardly fence-sitting that leads to/reinforces hedonistic nihilism and moral relativism. It's just noticeably more internally consistent than Roman Catholicism and its trinitarian offshoots, but that's like never dating again because your middle school boyfriend was mean... Atheism is the way like suicide is, and mostly something fall into by default, or emotional pain, or the need to feel unwatched and unaccountable so one can do nonsense, not some sort of "transcendental wisdom" that Europe came up with, lol. Even for Nietzsche, this is a tragedy (because he's not a dummy!) without precedent, and something that needs to be corrected ASAP. If God is dead in the West, something needs to fill the God-shaped hole. Ideally, it's God, but evidently it hasn't been for ages (if some form of righteous monotheism even "trickled down" from Roman Catholicism to begin with!) and the results in their societies (amoral and selfish "get the bag" mentality, sexual depravity that's applauded and openly talked about and taken as virtue/lightly, people living by inertia and for pleasure because they have no purpose nor do they even care to think about it, the "loneliness epidemic", etc etc.) are very noticeable.
I think believing things without evidence is intellectually lazy. Atheism is the default position. I only believe in one less god than you.
What is the "evidence" behind moral stances?
For me it's at least partially based on mutual aid, something that we also see in nature. Helping other people helps me (and the entire species as a whole).
That said, I'm not sure why you're so convinced that morals need to be based on anything. I have empathy, that means I don't want harm to come to others. It's really that simple.
Of course you do, you were made that way, we all were! Religion/belief in a set of principles in an axiomatic, non debatable way just provide good guidance, a handrail in case your eyes get too big and, idk, you end up president of the free world and Raytheon wants to bribe you and you want a new yacht so you push for war in a far away land. Our nature can only go so far, for the rest of the time you will need a code and something to keep you accountable to it that's bigger and outside of yourself, and Abrahamic monotheism helps us do that.
You're right, only nonreligious people have done bad things. Do you really want to go down that route? Religion is responsible for more death and destruction than any other force in human history. Tell me about how it wasn't used to justify chattal slavery. Tell me how countless religious leaders have been systematically raping children since at least the middle ages.
Shitty people are shitty people.
Further, I actually find it kind of offensive what you're implying here about my morality.
Were the words of the prophets used to justify chattle slavery? How? Or do you mean they say "oh btw God wants us to murder and pillage over there so we're just gonna do that" regardless of any religious moral teaching already put in place? "Thou shall not kill" is pretty simple and straightforward, ngl. And raping kids when you're not even supposed to lust over women besides your wife? And we haven't even gotten to Jesus, nvm Muhammad! And the one European religious American (meaning they actually read their book and internalised it), cause there's always one just to prove to their community that there's a better way forward even if they don't listen to him, was judged and executed by his peers because he opposed all of that shit. He wasn't a rebranded pagan like what we've had in the West since the beginning of Roman Catholicism but an actual follower of Jesus, his name was John Brown!
Yes, shitty people are shitty people, and they'll use whatever excuse to justify themselves and trick others. But righteous monotheists/otherwise religious (?) wouldn't, they'd be shitty for a moment in lapse in judgement and then feel like shit cause they actually care about not being villains and about the destiny of their souls. Just because many so-called religious figures, specially in the West but worldwide ofc, committed atrocities and then blatantly lied about their beliefs doesn't mean the actual beliefs they didn't hold are invalid! That just means that once again, because you will judge people on their words (and the natives knew some of y'all are forked tongued individuals, so how don't you know that about your own community?!) and not their deeds ("by their fruits you will recognise them"), you got swindled. Do you believe Trump when he says he wants to help his fellow Americans or mentions God here and there? Lol
Are you for real? I honestly stopped reading here. You REALLY need to read up on your own religion. Wow.
Just like most religious folk, they didn't actually read their own holy book. Just whatever was cherrypicked and spoonfed to them by their religious leaders.
Sorry, the absence of god isn't a hole. It means being a moral person for rational reasons and not because some author of a fairy tale, who also say things like "it's cool to kill some people", said so. Even if it 'was a hole', filling it with proper education is far superior in all respects.
Edit: and this is the first time I've seen someone argue that following a religion is NOT the intellectually lazy thing to do. Amazing.
It's kind of wild... But I used to watch atheist call in shows, and you'd be shocked about some of the things these people try to argue.
I used to watch AXP and still watch Matt Dillahunty every now and then. It really is wild how shocked and offended most of the callers get when they actually face resistance and are told to back up their beliefs with evidence. None ever can.
The worst is when they'd get someone literally defending slavery, every now and then.
You can't science/big brain yourself into morals, you either believe in it or not (again, check Hume's fork and the is-ought problem, the wise men in your tribe already talked about this!). And it's not about believing in tales, but finding yourself in/agreeing the words of the prophets (like their moral lessons) enough that you start considering the background ideology of what they're saying and then one day you're a well-read God fearing man.