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For those who aren't familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn't be believed, or being influenced to believe something that's not necessarily in your best interests.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I remember watching one of the Flash animated "truth" "documentaries" on flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon.

It talked about missiles being used and similar stuff, I was 13-14 at the time and I showed my parents, they rightfully explained that this was just a random video that anyone could have made.

They brought up the importance of using trusted sources, but also emphasized that they didn't have the facts either.

They told me to calm down and wait for verifiable facts to surface.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the Pentagon impact site never made any sense and the government was never open about the evidence. I was never convinced the official explanation made sense based upon the damage to the building.

The US government could easily clear it up by realizing the footage, but they won't.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It makes perfect sense to me, what issues do you see with it?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't really care to talk about this unless you have researched this thoroughly because the damage to the building was always inconsistent with the official narrative including the wreckage that was extracted from the building.

This makes me skeptical and the government has never released the footage when they definitely have lots of video evidence that can demonstrate exactly what happened.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok, if you are going to play this game...

  1. Please list your qualifications for doing research on the subject.
  2. Please let me know what research you have done, understand that I expect more than just facebooking and googling.

This will let me know both were you stand and what level of discussion you expect.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hard pass. I can already tell what you are up to. Acting like an asshole isn't the move you think it is.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

lol, calling me an asshole when you were the one who started acting all high and mighty, talking about how a normal person wouldn't understand your special research.

I won't deny that my last reply was a bit assholish, but that was just a reply to you rudely implying that normal people wasn't worth debating.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I said you were acting like one. At any rate, I know when someone is trying to troll. This is a very touchy topic for a lot of people. I apologize if I offended you.

Having spent a great deal of time studying this decades ago I really don't want to talk about it unless you are someone who has an insight. I have had thousands of conversations online and in person about this topic and frankly I am over it.

Ultimately, regardless of how much you do or don't believe the government it sidesteps the real issue. And that issue is 9/11 was used to take away our rights and start multiple needless wars of aggression.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Alright, it is absolutely fair to just be over a topic that has been talked to death and doesn't mean anything anymore.

I fully agree that the response to 9/11 was insane in terms of the US loosing freedoms, and I wonder how the country would be if that didn't happen...

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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