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[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nice breakdown.

Don't leave out the part that after this American renaissance, where those returning soldiers became workers who reaped the rewards of that one in a million economic boon, their children started fabricating narratives about 'hard work' and 'grit' being the reason their inherited wealth was justified.

Then they shoved that narrative down the next three generations' throats while exclaiming "kids these days are lazy" and "I worked a summer job to pay for college, why can't you?". All the while pulling up every ladder that had been constructed to put them in that position.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True enough. The men who had great jobs in the 50s had frequently been soldiers in the 40s. They'd been raised in the 30s during the great depression. They'd been through hardships. It was their kids who grew up in relative luxury. I'm sure some of it was pulling the ladder up after themselves. But, in addition they hadn't had to fight to establish their union, it was just there when they joined the job. Because of that, they didn't know how important it was, and so they didn't know they should be fighting to keep it strong.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they just saw money coming out of their check for union dues and propaganda about how union reps were corrupt

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And, to be fair, there was some corruption in unions. But, they could have rooted out that corruption and had a union that represented them. Instead they abandoned unions and embraced "rugged individualism".

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there was some corruption in unions.

There's corruption almost everywhere. The unions only survive because there's corruption in the companies, so the union corruption is usually a lesser evil.

For what good the market is, as long as unions aren't illegal, they should always balance out the corporate greed.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, there's some corruption everywhere. But, for example, the teamsters union was massively infiltrated by organized crime. Unions are good, but like companies they need oversight.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unions are good, but like companies they need oversight.

What we need then is a union union, which negotiates with the union to make sure they do their job and keep fees nominal, and if they refuse, it holds their dues. Of course, we can't have that for free, so .... unions all the way down?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or a government that oversees unions, just like they oversee clean water and safe medicine.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

(shaky stare at the US government at the moment)

I'm not sure that's a good idea....

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

The US government already oversees unions through the NLRB, but currently isn't able to do anything because Trump has removed the chair and not appointed a replacement. I don't think a broken NLRB is any worse than no NLRB at all.