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Ruh-roh. Trump and Hegseth forgot the US has a 100% losing record against countries that start with V.
Vietnam lost over a million of its people during the US invasion and occupation. It's all cutesy and smug to tally this as a Big L for Team USA. But I don't think anyone in that country values the W/L record over the hundreds of thousands of family members, friends, and other loved ones who died to feed the American war machine's rapacious appetite.
That's before we even talk about the ecological damage that haunts Vietnam to this day. Or the deaths in Laos and Cambodia racked up in collateral. Or the tenuous diplomatic relationships between the various South Pacific neighbors based on Cold War grudges, which have re-emerged as a shooting war between Thailand and Cambodia just last month.
Also, weren't the US armed forces prevented from going all out in Vietnam?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program#Torture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre#Killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange#Use_in_the_Vietnam_War
Read through that and tell me what we missed.
The American military tried everything just shy of nuking Hanoi. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant or trying to sell you something.
Soviet-sponsored air and naval defenses prevent North Vietnam from being saturation bombarded at the scale we inflicted on North Korea a decade earlier. Americans were largely confined to combat against insurgencies in the South. So much of the war was fought against the civilian population that the Americans were ostensibly there to protect from the villainous Communists.
But the idea that we simply didn't use enough troops or sufficiently advanced weaponry or brutal tactics... that's all reactionary mythology. If skinning half the population alive would have won the war, we'd have done it. A far more compelling argument is that Americans alienated the entire peninsula with our "all out" invasion (not unlike how we ended up alienating the bulk of the Afghan population following our '02 invasion). A subtler and more strategic approach - like our efforts to stand up anti-communist governments in The Philippines and Indonesia - seemed to have far better results in hindsight.
Are we talking about the same Indonesia where the USA funded and installed a Pro-US puppet government who basically sold out the country to US property development?
I guess that's better than the country being torn apart by war, but it got torn apart none-the-less.
The Very Same!
It is nearly non-existent in US History textbooks, which is a big fat "W" from the perspective of the capitalist-friendly intelligence services.
Actually the US has a shockingly short list of wars they have outright won where they were NOT part of an international coalition.
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