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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMHO: XML is a file format, JSON is a data transfer format. Reinventing things like RSS or SVG to use JSON wouldn't be helpful, but using XML to communicate between your app's frontend and backend wouldn't be either.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The amount of config.jsons I've had to mess with...

Yeah, json is not a good config format. As much as xml is not. Please use something like YAML or TOML.

[–] sysop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never moved away from ini I've just been sititng back watching you all re-invent the wheel over and over and over and over and over.

[–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a wheel, it's supposed to turn over and over and over and infinitum!

/S (because it's big sarcasm instead of small.)

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I wish more things used Nickel or Dhall for config. I don’t know why I wouldn’t want editor support for type information or the ability to make functions in my non-Turing-complete config to eliminate boilerplate on my end.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course you can use XML that way, but it is unnecessarily verbose and complex because you have to make decisions, like, whether to store things as attributes or as nested elements.

I stand by my statement that if you're saving things to a file you should probably use XML, if you're transferring data over a network you should probably use JSON.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We were using XML for that before JSON.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and it is a good thing we don't anymore.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why? JSON hasn't given us anything XML hasn't, except maybe a bit of terseness.

I do agree SOAP is a bit over engineered, though, but that's not the fault of XML.

[–] exu@feditown.com 4 points 1 year ago

XML is much more annoying to read/write by hand

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

As a pentester, if I see XML in HTTP I start crying.