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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

First of all. We probably don't agree on what gender is. You're treating it as a matter of fact and that you're right and I'm wrong. And then you're using that definition to base most of the rest of the arguments.

So if you want to convince me with those arguments, you have to first give a definition of man/woman that satisfies me.

You claim that those demands don't affect me, but they do. Every financial help that the government offers affects everyone, since everyone is paying for it. In general changing any rule/law affects everyone in one way or another.

The gay movement was different, they mostly demanded societal change. The only rule/law I can think of that was changed for them is about marriage. Which we mostly all accepted since we as a society were more accepting because of the previous societal change.

With trans, however, they are demanding changes to rules/laws without previous societal change. They haven't yet come up with a definition of gender that most people agree to, you can't change rules/laws for things that most people don't even agree if it exists or not.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So if you want to convince me with those arguments, you have to first give a definition of man/woman that satisfies me.

Its not my job to educate you, and nobody ever changed someone's opinion forcibly. If you want to learn about scientific facts of gender then read about it - nothing I've written above is scientifically controversial.

Good luck on your journey, here's a couple starting points.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-why-human-sex-is-not-binary/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

For someone whose "job is not to educate me", you've been pretty engaged in replying to every comment.

I'm educated. I know what the theory of gender you believe is, I just don't think it is true. I can read a wikipedia article, but I cannot argue with it.

Yet again, I am left with no definition of man/woman given by a pro-trans person.