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Thank you for proving another point. That no matter what- socialism will always win from a socialist’s perspective- even if they need to redefine the subject.
If capitalism works perfectly, by design- anyone has a fair shot. This is the absolute truth of it even if you don’t like it.
The problem is, it’s not working perfectly. And if socialism was adapted, I’d all but guarantee it would be bastardized just as bad if not worse.
I don't believe "fairness" is a defining characteristic of Capitalism. Can you please provide a definition of Captialism so that I can be sure we are talking about the same thing?
I didn’t say it was a defining characteristic of it. Just that if it works as it should, anyone has a chance at success.
What you did was exactly my point. You tried to compare socialism at its best against capitalism at it worst. If that fair, then let’s compare Singapore today vs. Bulgaria in 1989.
Or would you say that’s unfair?
I think you are confused. I don't believe I've tried to make a comparison between socialism and capitalism in this thread. Perhaps that was someone else?
Oh! My apologies! I have gotten accustomed to not looking at usernames for some reason.
Try talking to a person who grew up in a primarily black neighbourhood in America. Or a poor person who had to skip school so they could work to afford food.
Almost every rich person now had rich parents and rich grandparents. Even the "self-made" rich people had access to opportunities not available to poor people.
It's easy to risk everything to try starting your own business when failure means going back to your parents for food and housing. It's so much harder to justify trying when failure means starving on the street, and not trying means continuing to live in a house.
Capitalism does not give people a fair shot. It takes wealth from people with capital to give to people with capital, and by necessity, oppresses people to stop them from gaining capital.
The vast majority of people simply do not have a fair shot.
Anyone has a fair shot at being a wage slave
People who defended capitalism at this point in time are in constant denial. Capitalism only works well for everyone in highly competitive new fields/markets.
Once the monopoly sets in it no longer serves a useful function to the rest of society but does enrich a minority.
An awful lot of capitalistic practice is rent seeking nowadays. It doesn't add any value and instead creates it out of thin air.
There has never been an effective small businesses capitalism economy that every capitalists uses to justify capitalism. It always ends up as game of monopoly.
Yeah I agree, that was a ridiculous thing to say.
You honestly think racism doesn’t exist in other forms of government?
That is a strawman argument. I did not say that, and it is not relevant to what I did say.
Fucking hilarious!
Dude… it’s absolutely what you’re taking about. You framed capitalism as a form of govern that allowed racial discrimination.
ALL forms of government do this.
Now I’m done discussing this as you’re clearly working in bad faith to come out on top here.