Yeah, capitalism has conspired to make us believe, as a group, that resources are somehow incredibly limited while a small cabal of elites gobble up insane quantities of resources for themselves while depriving the majority of those same resources.

Pure altruistic socialism would evenly redivide those resources, giving to those who need what they need.

It is anathema to capitalism, but it is the only society that would actually work in a post-scarcity world, which we might actually be approaching, assuming that the capitalists don't destroy it first.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The world has had enough resources for post-scarcity for decades, if not centuries. Before, the problem was logistics, now it's will.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the estimate I've seen that tries to compute this out has people showering once every 3 weeks and using the internet for ~1 hour a week. Is this the post-scarcity lifestyle you had in mind, am I confused, or have we tipped past the point of being able to do much better?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, we can't produce water, can we? Better we check consumption, especially corporate.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I'm not sure what you mean.

But yes, desalination and cleaning are very expensive still afaik. We pipe water quite far between states, which seems crazy to me.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh it has always been will. Let‘s not pretend like capitalism has the better logistics and therefore a better world wouldn‘t have been possible sooner. That’s only romanticizing capitalism.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about methods of transport and storage. Food isn't likely to rot before it gets where it's going, like it was a couple hundred years ago.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

You can eat Southafrican oranges in Europe. Food could go wherever it's needed but rich people doesn't want it.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think very few of the ruling elite would support a post scarcity world. Elon Musk keeps talking about it the most and he is one of the guys I trust the least to intentionally bring it about.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

A socialist society where everyone is more or less equal. Yeah, Musk and his company of wannabe trillionaires are going to fight that to their last breath.