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Idk man some people myself included like discussing and/or arguing something. A lot of people argue impolitely or misrepresent points, but a huge portion of lemmy users have autism or other neurodivergence, so sometimes they're not good at picking up nuance or what the other person actually meant. Also, most people in general are tribal so I think what you're asking for might be impossible on an unrestricted platform.
I have had tons of actually good discussions on lemmy, I can link you some if you want, but it sounds like you're seeing people say "trump just broke 5 court orders and fired all the judges who disagreed with him, then illegaly sent the national guard to Oregon. This is fascism" and saying "you can't call everyone you don't like a fascist!!" Those at least fascist-leaning actions. Do I think it's actual fascism? No. But all of those actions are the dictionary definition of fascism, so if someone calls someone taking many fascist actions in succession a fascist... idk maybe hyperbole but not that extreme. It's like calling Bernie sanders a socialist. It's like well not really but I know what you mean.
Do you not notice any dissonance here?
I'm not really sure, maybe it's just the extent or the amount of incompetence that makes it different to me. It's sort of like fascism-lite, because even if trump WANTS all trans people taken away / treated as undesirables and has caused a lot more people to hate them, he hasn't been able to enact "if you are trans you will be killed" like I would expect under fascism. I also don't feel like even the crazy maga people want the democratic party to not exist, they just want democrats to "stop being stupid."
I was listening to an expert on cults talk about trump and MAGA, and he said trump plays to the crowd rather than saying what he believes. For instance when he said "I hope you're all vaccinated " in Missouri i believe, the crowd booed him and he quickly changed to "you should have the freedom to choose." I think narcissistic con man fits everything he does more accurately than fascist, but still that's why when someone calls him a fascist I don't really complain.