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[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's no such thing as a benevolent dictator.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There hasnt been, that doesnt make it impossible. Improbable for sure, but if someone did take over(aliens) who dont let the power go to their head, then there could definitely be a benevolent dictator.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But short of aliens, no one could take over, as you say, without violent repression of their opponents so that by definition, they're no longer benevolent.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You speak of absolutely when even without aliens there is a chance. People should have more hope in humanity, which i have little of(but not none!).

Also i never said no violence, its clear there will probably be plenty. But there can be justified violence to aim for the greater good.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How can you consider the violent oppression of people, whether you happen to agree with them or not, to be in any way benevolent?

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because i dont believe everyone deserves mercy. There are some people who just gotta go.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How are you not understanding my point? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you're the one miss understanding. I get your point, but i disagree with it.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, I am not. By definition you cannot be benevolent in any form if your method of seizing power is to murder your opposition. That's just being a regular dictator.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes yes i know thats what you said. I dont agree with that assessment or definition as you called it. I however believe getting rid of bad actors who are purposely evil and harming humanity is a good thing. So then they would still be benevolent to me.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

So what you're actually saying is you want a brutal and repressive dictator who murders their opposition who just happens to align politically with your views.

Sorry, that's still not benevolent, it's just a different flavour.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't consolidate enough power into your own hands to enact meaningful change in a country (positive or negative) without violent oppression, therefore making the idea of a benevolent dictator an oxymoron.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to convince me. I think you replied to the wrong comment

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Quite possibly ( ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°)

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Im sad you seemed more elegant with his reply than my own which you were aiming for ;[