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If you want to call Israel a democracy then you have to specify that it's an apartheid state too, and if you're defending an apartheid state then you've got other problems, mate.
This is nonsense, it's like saying the Holocaust wasn't a genocide because the genocide of Native Americans or the Atlantic slave trade killed many times more people. You sure this isn't a case of worthy vs. unworthy victims?
Why should Israel be an Apartheid if it is a Democracy? That doesn't make sense.
And the Holocaust comparison is not one of quantity, but of quality. Building an: industrial complex to kill millions if Jews is historically unprecedented.
I don't know bud, if that question is so important to you then you can work it out on your own.
It is a fact that Israel is an apartheid state.
Great argument.
Apartheid in South Africa meant no civil rights for black people, no political representation, but separated public spaces. Arabs in Israel have the same civil right as all Israelis, the can vote and they have several parties in the parliament. No public places are ethnically separated.
Israel is not an Apartheid, that's an (empirical) fact.
So because it isn't identical to South African apartheid, then it can't be apartheid? They are two different circumstances, of course they are going to be different.
Gaza itself is ethnically separated.
Edit: Oh look at that, if it isn't consensus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid
Here's a particularly relevant section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid#Comments_from_South_Africans