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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think they key counter-argument comes from your position "leeches off of those of the working class who must rent". I agree with this! But it ignores people that want to rent for whatever reason, like living somewhere for a few years to attend university.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The only reason people want to rent is due to the inherent complications of the capitalist system making it unfeasible for those who fall underneath an arbitrary financial threshold to be able to own property plus the unnecessary complications that monetary systems cause in the exchanging said property.

Under a communal system of ownership. You can own the home for a few years while you live in it, under the rule of usufruct (use-based ownership), and once you are done the property returns to the community as a collective until someone else has need of it.

It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. But it is only because of the current systems we live under arbitrarily making this more complicated so that a few individuals (the owning class) can exploit these complications for profit and personal enrichment

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Putting the cart before the horse here. We live in a capitalist society and people need temporary dwellings now, they can't wait for a proletarian revolution and total restructuring of society.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Cool, but that has nothing to do with my point. I never said people should wait. I said landlords are leeches.

The fact that people can't wait and the current system leaves them with no other alternative other than to be leeched on by someone who withholds private ownership over their home is an inherently oppressive situation to be in.