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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why is this illegal? I know ... weird question, but ... they didn't do it.

I am admitting right now in public that I am going to build a spaceship and enslave an alien planet. What are my charges?

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It looks like they took steps to realize their plan which takes it from random nonsense to actual conspiracy.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Conspiracy requires the agreement to commit a crime within a specific jurisdiction where it is illegal.

"Some island somewhere" lacks jurisdiction.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Where did you hear that?

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They were charged with conspiracy to murder, maim, or kidnap in a foreign country and production of child pornography.

Emphasis mine.

An alien planet isn't a foreign country. It's not clear that aliens are legal persons. You don't seem to be engaged in a conspiracy either. I'm not a lawyer on Earth nor Glaxtonbry but: I don't think it's illegal to advance your plan.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but there is no difference between a foreign country and another planet in this case. The "home" country does not have jurisdiction.

The child porn does actually leave an opening. If they were organizing a "trip" for the purpose of abuse then most countries can take jurisdiction and act (it happens alot).

However, conspiracy charges for planning an attack in another country would likely get dismissed and at worst would be used for forfeiture... to sieze any materials and goods.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the law they broke is "conspiracy to commit murder, maim, or kidnap in a foreign country". The conspiracy is the crime and the home country does have jurisdiction because the conspiracy is happening there and they have a law against conspiring to murder people in other countries.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Yep, I agree, but my opinion is that it is a reach. Conspiracy charges like these are brought against sex tourists once they have done the crime. "Against a minor" is specifically mentioned in the definition.

This is overreach of jurisdiction. It would be the same as coming after a person for planning to build a spaceship and attack an alien planet. The crime is required.