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In short:

An Australian bank has frozen the accounts of a prominent Neo-Nazi leader, while a US-based technology firm has blocked the group's attempts to solicit donations online.

The nation's corporate watchdog has also revoked the group's proposed company name, "White Australia".

Despite these actions, the Neo-Nazi organisation claims it has collected 1,495 of the 1,500 signatures required to register as a federal political party.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe everyone considers this to be good progress, but banks have been shutting down the accounts or refusing to process payments for all the groups they disagree with for many years. For example, adult games on Steam. In this case it might seem justified but as we move to a digital only society this is a pretty dystopion look when you take a step back

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 4 points 18 hours ago

Maybe everyone considers this to be good progress

I don't see it as progress, but good in this scenario. Like you said, this isn't a new development at all.

this is a pretty dystopion look when you take a step back

I think it already is. Has been for over a century, for many people. The bottom line is private companies can essentially shut people out of employment, if they want. It's tough to live like that, that's why anti-discrimination legislation has been so important. So yes, I do cheer when a company decides to, or is pressured into, removing confirmed neo-Nazis from employment, but I'm aware that we don't want to revert to a society where people are unreasonably removed due to age, ethnicity, sex/gender, union status, etc.. Not all politics is equal or equivalent, neo-Nazism is inherently and proudly harmful to most of society, there's no "both sides" symmetry.

I'm definitely familiar with censorship and oppression powers being used against both reactionary and progressive groups. In fact, that's an important part of how Lemmy was founded and grew. And it's also why socialist groups campaigned against some of the protest laws introduced under the guise of being anti-Nazi legislation, which clearly didn't achieve it's purported goals. You're right to be skeptical about institutions making political decisions with their power.

As for private companies, these political decisions are typically either guided by the personal beliefs of the owners/shareholders (see Elon Musk's influence on twitter's speech restrictions, or any mass media company) or by public pressure and reputational risk (see reddit only deleting some controversial communities once they make it into a newspaper, or the millions of companies making paper-thin political signalling efforts in line with whatever political positions are widely popular).

Because of this, I believe it's important for us to build worker power as citizens to be able to pressure these companies into making pro-social political decisions, instead of anti-social political decisions in the interests of their rich shareholders. In a word, make private companies care about us, because most of them don't.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Banks are mercenary. They have zero positions they "disagree with". They refuse to do business with companies and organisations for only one reason: It's unprofitable.

There are Millions of people who will alter their banking behaviour over things like "Bank X is the Nazi bank". I would. It's the same story with porn (not so much in Australia, but absolutely a thing in the USA). A reputation of being the "porno bank" would lead to millions of people changing their bank. And so, banks won't do business with porn providers. If the people didn't care, neither would the banks.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Where are these massive groups of profit impacting people that "care" about MasterCard processing steam transactions?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We'll, they did it on response to protests from a right wing group. I presume they worried that they would be associated with illicit content. It may be that they took a global view rather than western view of what's acceptable.

I have no doubt that they wouldn't care what people buy if there was nonprofit to lose.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fringe groups protest everything, it doesn't reflect the population as a whole. They only used payment processors as a lever to achieve what they want

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

I get that. I don't know that the losses add up as the group was unheard of, but they didn't pull the ban out of their ass. I think they did everything to try and hide where it came from.