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Per the title. If an animal dies out in nature without any human involvement, shouldn't it be considered vegan to harvest any of the useful parts from it (not nessicarily meat, think hide), since there was no human-caused suffering involved?

Similarly, is driving a car not vegan because of the roadkill issue?

Especially curious to hear a perspective from any practicing moral vegans.

Also: I am not vegan. That's why I'm asking. I'm not planning on eating roadkill thank you. Just suggesting the existence of animal-based vegan leather.

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[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 41 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Hi, ive been vegan for a bit over 10 years. I don't think animal parts are for us to use at all. I'm not really sure why you'd harvest animals at all, I don't think normalizing the commodification of others' bodies is a good thing to be doing. If you really can't live without animal parts, that's probably the least harmful way of acquiring them. I wouldn't recommend eating anyone you find lying on the ground though, that sounds like a good way to contract horrible diseases.

Veganism is about doing the most that is possible and practicable. We probably kill insects just by walking, but it's not reasonable to never move again to avoid that. Similarly, driving a car for many people is a necessity to be able to access goods and services, and its not at all practicable to avoid driving for them.

Ultimately, veganism is a moral stance about reducing harm to others as much as you can. It's not a competition, so don't feel like you have to be perfect at it to do good.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Back in the way way way way way way way day. Human used animal fur for warmth, and the meat to eat.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We probably kill insects just by walking, but it's not reasonable to never move again to avoid that.

There's this Hindu sect whose adherents wear veils, sweep the floor before them, and/or tread very slowly and carefully to avoid injuring, killing or eating any small insects. As you said, it's about doing as much as you can, but if it were a competition they'd win for sure.

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think you mean Jainism? It isn't Hindu.

They also have a very strict vegetarian diet, they won't even eat root vegetables so burrowing insects aren't disturbed

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 hours ago

Thank you for this perspective!

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

i saw a really interesting video about biking jackets and the design of them, the conclusion is that molecularly leather is the safest material for abrasion and there's not really any synthetic replacement that comes close.

What does your perspective (in regard to veganism) have on this subject?

https://youtu.be/xwuRUcAGIEU
Btw this channel is REALLY entertaining and well written, I'd recommend watching this channel if you get bored sometime

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 7 points 3 hours ago

I'd take the risk with synthetic materials, personally. I don't think any amount of danger I put myself in would justify killing someone else for their skin. I have a synthetic jacket with elbow and shoulder reinforcement for when I ride, and that's good enough for me.

I'll definitely check out the video later when I have more downtime though.