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NGL on this one, but why someone doesn't have a passport is beyond me.
Given the shitshow in the country right now, EVERYONE that is old enough should have one.
It's the realest ID there is, AND it doesn't have the holders home address on it.
It's just a State Department issued document stating that one is an American National.
Because it's $165 per adult and $135 for a child under the age of 16. That's $600+ for a family of four, in an economy where monthly groceries cost ~$1000+ monthly for that same family.
Damn your government is ripping you off. I got mine for ~$20
Yeah dude, it's America. Ripping us off is essentially a televised sport, considering the existence of capan.
We keep it under $800 for the 5 of us, but that's partly because I'm not including the free times a month we eat out.
Yeah, virtue signaling for the working poor much eh? Do tell me how I managed it with a 19k income the year I got mine.
FYI, it's a document that lasts for a decade.
Also, if the family is on hard times, start with the people most likely to be hassled by ICE.
But of course, it can't be done, since working poor Americans like myself, managed to do it.
FFS, you make some messed up assumptions.
Getting a Passport is a fuck of a lot cheaper than what you're gonna lose if you get picked up by ICE.
Except theyre deporting US citizens without a trial. What makes you think a passport is going to stop them when the rest of your identification didnt?
Edit: to be clear, i agree that a passport in a good idea to have for when shit hits the fan soon. Just recognise that for a lot of people most in need, theyre the least able to get it.
The rest of the identification doesn't actually declare legal citizenship status of the holder.
At that point where someone DOES have verifiable proof of citizenship and still ends up deported, the ICE agents are open to constitutional charges.
It's the technicalities that get Trump and the administration fucked on their incompetence every time.
It's going down with the Comey case right now.
Yes, it would be nice if things could move faster but we are in - for lack of a better metaphor - a political "in flight emergency" right now, and all we can do is wait until the plane lands or crashes.
Either way, it's coming down. Hard.
If the Democrats get legislative majority in 2026, I expect a ton of shit to happen quite fast. I suspect Trump will become totally unhinged to the point where the GOP decides to let the 25th Amendment be invoked so they can be rid of him, and then the Democrats will find "consensus" with a surprising number of GOP politicians to address the constitutional violations that have taken place.
You know Trump will do his best to throw every single one of his cabinet members under the bus, when the lawsuits come for him.
Thats a lot of privalege talking, getting a passport isnt that easy for a lot of people.
Privilege? How about it being a lot of work.
Don't make an assumption that I'm middle-class like you are. Been working poor my entire adult life.
Cool. Ive been unemployeed most my adult life through no fault of my own. Thats privalege. Everyones got in in some degree, no one is immune. Understand it and dont look down on others because they havent achieved the things you have.
Not looking down on anyone having a hard time of it, as I've been up and down myself. Grew up on welfarte, so I know full well how rotten poverty in America is.
If not for the fact that I've found my own niche a decade ago and landed a cool modest job in the arts, I'd be unemployed because I'm over 50. (Ageism is a real thing..)
The point being, given how utterly shit the current government is, if someone isn't a white American with an Anglo-Saxon-sounding last name, their safest bet IS to get a passport for identification.
ICE IS throwing American citizens out of the country and disapearing others into detention facilities for months. They're stealing personal effects, and disapearing the identity documents of many OF those same Americans.
(this is why you can get a passport card that can be carried in a wallet, so if you DO get picked up or harassed, you have the legal proof and your actual passport is still safe at home..)
This isn't about some classist shade being thrown, but it's about protection from the worst abuses of the wannabe Fourth Reich assholes infesting Washington DC.
If you gotta jump through flaming fucking hoops, you do it.
Because if you land in that rapacious maw, you'll lose far more than the money you've spent..
I forsee that come the 2026 elections and if there's a blue wave, that Trump will order ICE to pivot to a "Pay to get released" bond scam to shake down the people in the detention centers. Look at how absolutely shitty a person Trump is and at the group of people around him. It wouldn't be out of character for the lot.
This is ALL a grift and a con.
Shut up.
Dipshit comment of the hour