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[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Good read, thanks

But I believe in generics, just write your functions so that it can work with all the types ;)

translation: Just get rid of what is a boy or a girl thing. Just let people do what they like.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The idea of abolishing all gendering of things is a curiously contested one within LGBT+ spaces, as far as I can see.

I can understand how people wishing to be identified a certain way have a vested interest in the existence of markers for that identity.

On the other hand, I wish painting my nails wasn't fem-coded on some level. Of course guys can do so too, but the only "guy" I knew who did so regularly eventually turned out not to be a guy, which doesn't exactly help me ignore that connotation.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I can understand people wanting markers. But maybe we have like 10-20 markers and someone having 5-6 from the other side is not weird. Like if someone is presenting as a girl completely and is not, they could just reply with "oh, I'm a guy, I just dressed as a girl today" and people would be like "that's fun" instead of being weirded out.

Like long hair/short hair for example. Or how girls wearing pants is normal now.

In my case, my culture does have people cross dressing during certain events so it's not as ostracized. But that could also be because people didn't actually think about wanting to be the other gender but just dressing up for one occasion.

Few fun things:

  • My parents wanted a daughter but had me,
  • my nickname at home was a girl's name version of my name,
  • only children close to my age and vicinity growing up were girls so I grew up playing "girl" games,
  • my mom didn't stop me from painting my nails, or putting makeup or anything as a child. (I still paint my nails black sometimes),
  • In highschool I was the only guy among the group of students with nails too long on a biology lab,
  • a guy friend once told me I walk gay (I didn't even know that was a thing?)
  • I don't watch sports, so I don't have many common things to talk to guys as much,
  • Good friends I had (guys) were based on either common interests (programming, philosophy, etc) or other nerds. And when I don't have those and only friends are based on proximity then I don't have as many things in common.

All those considered I'm still a guy, I just don't care about being "manly", and just do things that interests me. Plus lots of the things people do to be manly seems to just make them spend even more time with other guys lol. And although I don't want to do a lot of things that are for each genders, I just wish everyone was chill about doing whatever someone likes. Or for someone to just try it out to see if they like it not, instead of thinking "that's what X do, I won't do it".

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

I just wish everyone was chill about doing whatever someone likes.

Preach, sibling.

As an aside:

Like long hair/short hair for example.

This reminds me of the song "Turn The Page", specifically the lines "Always the same old clichés: Is it woman, is it man?"

They refer to the issue rock musicians with long hair faced, back when Seger wrote it. ~30 years later, when I first heard it, I was a metalhead with long hair. On one hand, I felt it keenly because classmates made fun of my "girl" hair. On the other, it struck me as odd because I saw plenty of metalheads with long hair (nevermind people from other cultures where that was never an issue).

Eventually, with figures like Thor making long hair "manly" enough, that stopped. It's curious how culture shifts can be so irregular, once slow and uneven and then suddenly very quickly.