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Michelle Obama says US ‘not ready for a woman’ to be president: ‘Don’t even look at me about running’
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2025
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They said that about a black president. So. No. I don't agree. AOC is very popular.
WTF...US Right wing went insane over Obama, now we have SS squads patroling the streets for people of color.
So he didn't get elected like they said he wouldn't?
Obama also hadn't been nationally mocked, caricaturized, and vilified from the beginning of his political career. I'm far from a political historian, but I can't think of any domestic political figure who has been so frequently and intensely criticized as AOC.
I could maybe see it with a decisive blue wave in 2026, but then only if it fuels like another one in 2028. That said, a lot of things can happen between now and then, morning is impossible.
Who criticizing AOC? What's to criticize?
Uh, basically the entire right and a good chunk of the center
I'm not saying their criticisms are justified, it's all a bunch of vapid shit and straight up lies. She's too young, she's too sassy, she was a bartender, she's a communist, whatever. None of it matters, even when what they're saying isn't just made up. But it's out there, a lot. I'm actually kind of jealous of you for not being exposed to enough right wing sentiment to have experienced it.
Look, I love the theory kiddies for the scholarship and devotion. But you have to spend at least a little time considering sociology and rhetoric, learning how the average person actually responds to stimuli.
The bourgeoisie owns the media. The majority of the proletariat mostly consume corporate media. If I could make a genie wish that everyone woke up tomorrow with perfect rational faculties, to educate themselves and act in their own best interests, we could have a bloodless revolution by next week.
But I don't have a magic lamp, and the average voter is going to wake up tomorrow the way they woke up today: highly susceptible to propaganda.
So as baseless as the criticisms are, they are ubiquitous. Search any right wing, or "centrist", media source for "AOC" and you'll find hundreds of insults and mischaracterizations. I really would not be surprised at all if she is the most criticized political figure (excepting presidents) of this generation.
That's why I think a VP position for a relatively bland, but roughly progressive, old white candidate would be a great opportunity to offset all that vitriol.
Mamdani won despite all that. The people are ready for an unbought president.
Mamdani won in quite possibly the most left wing office in the nation. Good for him, good for them, and I hope it spreads.
Maybe it does by 2027ish, that would be really cool. That would be a radically different political landscape and my strategic opinion would change.
But in general I find that it's usually most accurate to assume things will roughly remain the same. So while I'm optimistic that the landscape might change, I would still prefer to focus my strategy on assuming that it doesn't.
If the tides start turning with some volume, it's easy to pivot. But I'd rather be overprepared than naïve.
Among liberals.
She won't win a national election. Too many Americans don't like her.
AOC is popular only in the northeast USA, like the others. She also politically untested. I agree with Michelle.
…Politically untested? The fuck? Where have you been?
Besides, it’s not like the people are being elected are either tested or passed their tests by a reasonable amount anyway. It’s a weak excuse when it only seems to apply sometimes, just like everyone who said Bernie was too old a decade ago but who voted for Trump even though his mind was already fading then and was halfway gone this time around.
I'm old enough to remember when MEN running for US president were always famous politicians on the national level before ascending to the presidency. They wrote books, had famous legislation presented and passed in their name, were nationally noisy and nationally well known. AOC is mostly a northeastern US political celebrity. She has not been tested under political pressure that would threaten her safe candidacy.
God, you’re such a little baby. In the 1980s the US let Ronald Raegan kick the entire country in the crotch and he was just a shit actor with shit for brains. Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected the governor of California over two decades ago and he’s not the worst but he was hardly a politician of any renown. You’re either doing this on purpose or are genuinely this stupid and both are a level of utterly pathetic that I’m surprised you can be remotely happy with yourself for even a single minute of the day.
Take your worthless, unfounded, hypocritical, and massively sexist opinion and shove it way the hell up your ass.
She is a representative from one of the NY district. That's quite a unique situation, most of America isn't like that. AOC is an amazing, smart, young woman politician, with great ideas. This combained with her nationality, means more than half of the country hates her with passion.
That’s seriously your response? That she’s from NY and that means she can’t possibly understand how anything else works? That dogshit country elected Donald Trump, a dude with the opposite of qualifications who also came from New York and who lives in a huge mansion/villa. AOC has actually had a real job. She’s had to work late shifts, she’s had unreliable income. The country might not look like New York City but it’s full of people who she understands and respects.
Take your goofy opinion and take a hike.
"Oh yeah? If you think America will not vote for a young smart left leaning woman with credentials, then why did America elected an old stupid right wing white criminal man twice?".
Buddy, do you, like, have problems with all this "if a then b" stuff? Logic and all?
You’re trying to say that the reason she won’t be elected is [reason X] and I’m saying that despite [reason X] the US still elected Trump. Your argument is bad because you’ve already been proven wrong, and given the history of US politics you’ve been proven wrong hundreds of times.
Your low level of literacy is not a problem with me.
So let her run for Prime Minister of Canada. USA loves them pale, male and stale.
Popular in the SW too
And NW
And Midwest. She's very popular here in Illinois.