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Michelle Obama says US ‘not ready for a woman’ to be president: ‘Don’t even look at me about running’
(www.independent.co.uk)
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Species as a whole.
More progressive cultures are getting over this tribalistic, divisive stuff -- they will tend to flourish over time.
More conservative cultures will double down on division -- they will tend to wither.
While they certainly implode... I think there's the old problem.
Like say you have 5 co-operative communities that focus on building up great resources, polite trade with eachother, no focus on millitary.
Then you throw in 2 Viking type communities, extremely warlike, that have no independent ability to gather resources... but specifically focus on pillaging.
Obviously the vikings take out the poorly defended villages to build up resources, before going after eachother, in the long run everyone dies out because the vikings wreck everything for everyone, and leave nothing for themselves.
I feel like that's kind of a form of what happens with capitalism vs socialism types. we've got elements that really just want peace... but the warlike ones will just continue to survive, as long as there are enough peaceful societies to wreck... and unfortunately the peaceful ones are the ones to go down first, in spite of being the only ones that would survive long term without the others existance.
I didn't say "undefended"
It's the point though, not even completely undefended, still not 10% of the same level of defense as the primary points of capitalism. IE just note how much force, propoganda etc... is pushed at any country that isn't capitalist enough. Right now fishing boats are being bombed. or even non military force, like the trade embargo's on cuba etc...
and heaven knows how many government sponsered coups etc... Point is a lot of resources go into doing everything possible to make things that aren't capitalist enough have a very steep uphill climb.
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist countries also do perverted things like blatant propaganda, needless use of force, etc.
Cuba is a great example. Cuba wasn't embargoed 'because Communism!' (though that was, stupidly IMO, part of the USA political messaging)
Castro did summary political executions & imprisonment , killed the free press , enacted torture ...
What exactly did you want? Continue doing business like "NBD, you do you?"
I'm not doubting the problems of any government. however to make the case that it's not grounded on the fear of communism... It's not like that's exactly uncommon in countries we are continuing to do business like NBD, Isreal, Russia, Saudi Arabia to name a few off the top of my head.
Again not disagreeing with the general concept that communist countries aren't exempt from committing atrocities. Difference is a capitalist country does them "it's a growing pain", or "they are starting out, once they get big enough they'll fix it, just like the US did".
Yeah that's what I thought... In the 1970s.
I'm sorry to say it's not going as well as I'd hoped.