Pragmatic Leftist Theory

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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.

Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.

This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.

If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.

Rules:

-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.

-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.

-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.

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Government shut down and the divisions between workers (midwest.social)

submitted 1 week ago by Juice@midwest.social to c/PLT@sh.itjust.works

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I was invited here to participate in discussion. But when I visit, all I see is a bunch of anti-tankie posts from a prolific anti-tankie, an Atlantic smear article about DSA from months ago, and a few genuinely good discussions. Let's get those numbers up, and start drowning out the "based" memes.

As of today, the most divisive and urgent issue du jour, is about the government shutdown, and the legislative drama surrounding it. People are angry.

There are a lot of people directly affected by the shut down. I know someone who is basically working for free at her govt job because she's scared she will lose her job completely. A department of 20 workers, reduced to a staff of 4 temporary slaves. She doubts she will get back pay, but hopes she will. Many of her coworkers will not. My friend doesnt think about it like that, but that is def one major pain point in the middle class.

I'm willing to bet the dem house legislature is just gonna fold with no healthcare demand, which is a seriously pressing issue for workers who rely on ACA.

Back of the napkin, about 45% of ACA recipients are at or below the poverty line. ACA subsidies cut off below 65k indiv/130k fam.

That bracket would include many government workers, except govt workers receive healthcare. 65k is like barely middle class in the US, with housing costs, soaring energy bills, etc.,

Interesting and tragic how the shut down is just a way to divide the working class over material issues, especially the working poor vs the middle class.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not referencing any specific philosophy, I'm using the dictionary definition:

dealing with the problems that exist in a specific situation in a reasonable and logical way instead of depending on ideas and theories : practical as opposed to idealistic

It is a direct response to impotent idealism. Leftist conversations on Lemmy eventually trend towards purity test circle jerks instead of actionable solutions. I want actionable solutions, actual praxis.

When I see people more concerned with mischaracterizing some other, rather than doing practical work I get a little worried.

Which is precisely the behavior we're trying to counteract. The problematic instances are basically nothing but mischaracterizations of other leftists. It worries me that you're bending over backwards to give these people the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to have problems when we call out specific interactions we've had with them.

Their behavior is substantially more detrimental to your work than ours. They produce a constant stream of content that splinters the left, makes us look foolish, and presents leftist thought in a way that drives people away. If you haven't experienced that personally, that's nice for you, but it's a way bigger problem than you're making it out to be.

EDIT: I just looked at all the posts, and I'm not sure what you see as a "mischaracterization". Everything is either a screenshot of an actual conversation, or a commentary on an interaction I've either had personally, or is exactly identical to one I did. They're not flattering depictions, true, but they're not mischaracterizations. The real observed behavior they reference just isn't flattering.