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A Boring Dystopia

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The world we live in isn't just dystopic, it isn't just stupid, trying to describe all the ways it sucks just makes for a really boring story.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This feels like the end result of any system that places money before people.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People place money before people. This isn't a system problem, it's a human problem.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's a systemic problem created by people which produces people prone to encouraging the systemic problem. We're actively in the acceleration phase which results in a bloody reset. People are a product of their environment and the systems that bind them.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the system was made by.....

You got this.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you saying human nature changes depending on the economic system? Are you aware of an economic system where people do not fuck one another over money?

And I'm not talking about communism in a tribe of a couple hundred. That's natural and efficient. I want to know how you propose to manage the economic activities of 10s of millions without people fucking each other over for money. Hell, dial it in to several thousand people.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

they don't.

they have no answer other than vague hopes and beliefs that human nature is inherently good and that the 'right system' will prevent people from being people.

capitalism scales very well. collectivist action doesn't. it's best in small communities really. it doesn't do well beyond a few dozen people unless you start having really rigid social codes and structures...

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Asked many times on here for an economic system that does not eventually funnel money to the top. Haven't got a single answer to this date. 🦗🦗🦗

[–] wucking_feardo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I agree with your point about the difficulty of designing a good system for millions of humans to play well together.

I just have a small nitpick. People do not place money over other people, they place their own needs and wants over other people, money is just one tool for it.

Whichever ideal system we could design would need to take that into consideration. And sociopaths, which is a whole other thing.