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'Absolutely Pathetic': Senate Democrats Denounced for Caving to GOP in Shutdown Fight | Common Dreams
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Do you not understand how politics works? This was an existential moment to fight and Democrats blew it. This is going to go into history books to describe how the US collapsed so quickly because of zero institutional breaks slowing the process down.
Agreed, Dems killed election night and then they shoot themselves in the foot on purpose.
They had a chance to thoroughly embarrass Republicans especially with air travel shutting down during holidays. They were winning this fight and they threw it
They should all be primaried. Not giving a fucking dime to the DNC this year. Only supporting candidates who won't do billionaires bidding
It was a historically long government shutdown and you say they collapsed so quickly.
I think there’s political strategy at play here and not just cowardice.
I think Republican blame for the shutdown has probably bottomed out. And Democrat support has probably peaked. Any longer and Democrats would probably start to lose favor as more people’s lives are affected by the shutdown.
Reopen the government and force the ACA vote. Everybody will be watching this vote in a way they never would have before the shutdown. If it passes, Democrats are the heroes. If it fails, Republicans are the villains. It’s a win win for Democrats.
And as I said, keeping the government shut down will do nothing for healthcare premiums.
Set a reminder to read this comment again in two months and see if that's how this plays out. I'm not sure how many times Democrats need to help Republicans fuck you over before you understand that neither party's leadership has any intention of doing something else.
So your suggestion is to keep the government shutdown forever? Premiums still go up only everybody else is now affected by the shutdown.
People would turn on the Democrats at some point. If I had to guess, I’d say they already started to and they have internal polling that shows it.
I wish I knew anyone who gave me as much benefit of the doubt as you give Democrats. I don't get why it's apparently so difficult for you to imagine that they don't have your best interests in mind.
I’m talking politics here. Democrats definitely suck in many ways. But in this specific interaction, I think they’ve reached the limit on what they’re going to gain from the government shutdown.
And if you think they’ve gained nothing, well that’s about what you get from government shutdowns.
They held on for over a month and then gave up, giving the Republicans everything they wanted. Premiums always go up, but you're either a moron or a bad actor if you think premiums going up 10% is worse than doubling. Republicans won't vote for the subsidies, so the Democrats have jusy thrown away all their leverage for a pinky promise
Do you even understand the issue you’re talking about? Yes, premiums are still going to double if the government stays shut down!
Literally the only way they are not going to double is if Republicans allow a vote and approve the additional funding.
And by shutting down the government, Democrats have made it clear who is responsible for this. And by reopening the government they have forced a vote that should be very high profile.
Keeping the government shut down was not going to stop the premiums from doubling as you say.
Republicans aren't going to vote to continue the subsidies next month. And they won't when the CR expires in the new year. What they needed to do was force the Republicans to extend the subsidies now.
The Democrats are feckless cowards who serve the Republicans everything they want on a silver platter
But Republicans already made it clear they weren’t going to allow a vote when the government is shut down.
If you honestly believe they would have allowed a vote, then I understand where you’re coming from.
Personally, I think they would have allowed the government to remain shut down forever. Or, worse, they would have removed the filibuster and began passing all the laws they really want.
Republicans are behold to the same corporate interests as the Democrats. The busiest travel week in the country is coming up and airports are already buckling under the shutdown pressure. Now millions have suffered for nothing.
And you think Republicans would cave?
Personally I do not. But I could also see the end killing the filibuster. Which would have been even worse for everybody.
Yeah. They would have caved. It was the epitome of how Republicans are destroying government.
They would have caved or there would have been consequences.
And it's better to lose all of our airports, publicly, loudly, and visibly, than it is to lose our entire Judicial branch of government.
Well, I certainly disagree that they would have caved.
As for losing the judicial branch. Not sure what a government shutdown would have done there. I don’t think saving that was ever in the cards.
It makes the damage that's being done loud and visible instead of quietly having our country dismantled without people noticing because "they don't follow politics" and the lack of Due Process hasn't affected them personally yet.