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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (27 children)

People, you've gotta stop waiting for a revolution.

Any "solution" that starts with "you first" and involves fighting against forces that vastly out gun you, with people you absolutely would not agree to fight with is a complete non starter.

You have to realize that even if such a revolution happened, after it happened, they'd just pick the same systems that lead to that result.

You want a hail mary but you will not get it.

The practical buckleys tagline solution you all hate but is the only one that works is supporting the fuck out of the democrats in not only the short term (to stop so many people from being harmed), but in the long term too, this way they can't just use the right as an excuse to go to the right. All that time, youll need to replace the old guard with more progressive members through overwhelming support in primaries, and being active in state and local politics.

Thats the only way forward where you can win, and its a lot more feasible and less painful than any revolution fantasies. In any of those fantasies, its more likely your head rolls than any of the ghouls we all hate.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

The practical buckleys tagline solution you all hate but is the only one that works is supporting the fuck out of the democrats

where is the evidence that this "works"?

were the democrats not in charge after the first trump term an utterly failed to do anything? and I don't mean they tried but failed, they didn't even triy

same as Obama, he could/should have prosecuted Bush for any of the many war crimes but instead immediately let them all of the hook with the "let bygones be bygones" crap

I absolutely agree a civil war would be awful but I think you are waaaaaay past fixing this by voting… much less voting for the same party that has shown to love the status quo so much

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

where is the evidence that this “works”?

Democracy works when you actually take part in it. The people have become so apathetic and think that voting is doing everything they need to do. It's actually the least they need to do. Most of the decisions and the candidates have already been chosen by the time you vote on it. The real work happens between elections, not during them.

Change the party. Change the ideas. Get active. Change the people. It's the only way you'll have someone worth voting for.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not saying democracy does not work, I'm saying the Democrats will not fix this problem

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Democracy works when you actually take part in it.

It's like believing in fairies. Come on, kids! Do you believe?!?! Let's save Tinkerbell!!! smh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

If everyone took part in the society they wanted to create the world would be a different place. The people in power stay in power because people like you give up before you even try.

If you don't want to help then get out of the way for those who do.

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