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World’s Largest Cargo Sailboat Completes Historic First Atlantic Crossing
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I'm pretty sure rowboats are absolutely not viable for moving thousands of tons of cargo. Also, they existed because there was a huge supply of slave labor.
That's not to mention the larger crew doing hard manual labor would require much more food, which is a sort of fuel in itself, one that is not commonly produced in an environmentally sustainable way.
Electric motor seems to be the superior option all-round (except for energy density in storage, where diesel still reigns supreme by a large margin)
I'm absolutely positive they've done exactly that.
Probably not one boat at a time, but I'd rate the importance of reducing the required number of boats as "less than low, a simple zero" and the importance of a breathable atmosphere as "extremely high."
And now there's a bigger supply of slave labor than ever. Our owners have never been so far from needing more of us; so focused on killing us off and finding ways to do things without us, for such a long time. It's nothing new to see a war engineered to kill off a few million slaves when there's overstock, but it's unprecedented to see stuff like chat bots deployed to drastically reduce the number needed worldwide.
Irrelevant. I didn't say "use bad methods to grow food and fuel the crew with that." Why would that be my point? If I suggest avoiding the use of motors because they're deadly and stupid, isn't it obvious I'd also suggest avoiding agriculture methods that are deadly and stupid?
Or are you saying one good choice is the maximum suggestion you'll entertain, and if I can't suggest one good choice that ensures survival on its own, you'd rather just die than move on to second or third or more considerations of what mentally healthy humans would do?
Never on a historical scale we moved so much cargo. Long-range ships were primarily used to move something extremely valuable, such as spices and gold - and now we have ships hauling everything because it's so much more efficient than anything else.
And so the solution is, instead of reducing work week and expanding social programs, to crank people up in dangerous conditions and make them do one of the hardest and most avoidable jobs known to humanity?
Fair, but it follows. Nowadays, in the age of cheap solar and new, eco-friendly power storage options, it is much, much easier and cheaper to add an electric engine than to maintain a fleet of wage-slaves fed by agricultural surplus.
Your kind of "solution" is both economically inefficient and inhumane, and doesn't seem to get out of the box of "9-to-5 to everyone by all means". So, don't rush to accuse me of shortsightedness.
You're wasting your time arguing with a pigeon.
It's honestly one of the funniest threads I've read in a while.
Did you get to this part?
Like they're gonna have a fleet of oceangoing cargo ships, each towed by a massive team of willing humans, all while escaping the dastardly pirates and their motorboats.
It's like Mad Max and Waterworld had a beautiful, insane baby
Yeah definitely a troll. Probably AI-written unless they're really dedicated.
I like this part:
We also have legs, so I want to see their take on trains and how powering them with human-sized hamster wheels is better for "safety" and "efficiency"
Cargo planes in their world should be really interesting
Fair!
Though I had a bit of fun around the absurdity of their argument. Quickly went downhill though.