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I hate how early it gets dark, but I did get the third shift achievement of clocking out at 1:30 am and getting home at 1:20 am this morning, so that's kinda neat.
It takes you fifty minutes to get home?
Unpaid?
No, it takes them -10 minutes to get home, duhh
Now THAT is speeding.
Timezone border.
No, it's that the fall back happens at 2AM.
Obviously crossing timezone borders.
Where you are, travel time is paid to and from work?
Not paid but where I live you get compensation for your travel time/distance (depends a bit on mode of transport, public transport vs car vs bike). I don't think anyone gets paid for their travel time, unless it's specifically travel for work rather than to work.
Welcome to the United States.
That's all the western world. You work where they hire, you live where the rent is affordable. I had a 90 min commute on my last job
Isn't it unpaid everywhere?
If it wasn't, people would move further away from work on purpose. This incentives even bigger and more spread out suburbs.
Where I live you can get tax exemptions for transportation costs if your distance from work exceeds a certain length.
And no, it would only incentivise spread out suburbs in car centric countries. Which is basically the US (or North America?). It works fine here on account of public transpartion, without creating suburban sprawl.
Damn, where I live you're not allowed to include your commute as part of the tax-exempt "personal vehicle usage compensation", nor are you allowed to drive your work vehicle home unless it's specifically on your way back from a work assignment and doing the extra drive to work and then going back home with another method of transportation is a ridiculous extra time sink. I don't think you can compensate a bus pass or anything either - though not too sure here.
Tax free bus or train pass compensation would be a great change to our tax code actually. It's distance based compensation for commuting that IMO would be stupid for commutes and I'm glad that it doesn't exist (though companies are cheating and using personal vehicle usage compensation for this - tax authority doesn't have time to check everyone)
In the US those tax breaks only benefit people who itemize which almost no workers do (they use standard deduction).
In Estonia, taxes are handled by the employer generally (even though legally, income tax is paid by the worker and social tax by the employer - the payments are still all made by the employer's accountants who have to do the reporting and all the math). Meaning it's up to the employer to pay you extra income in tax-free ways if they want to give you more while paying the same in tax. Employers do this to be more competitive, so obviously the bad ones don't, but the good ones do. If you can give someone 20% of their monthly net income as an extra benefit with zero tax attached to it, that has a motivational benefit similar to giving them a 20% raise, but costs you just over half as much as the raise would.
The biggest benefit, unfortunately, is not to regular employees, but people who do their own accounting and taxes.
As an example, I am currently self employed thru an LLC (Estonian equivalent, anyway). I purposefully set myself a low-ish salary so I only have to work 50 hours a month to pay it out, and the rest I can use for compensations and future dividends. This isn't even me trying to avoid tax as much as possible, I legitimately sometimes have trouble working more than 30 hours a month because I'm also a single dad with a pre-kindergarten age baby AND ADHD.
I've already paid myself out sports compensation as a tax-free benefit. 100 euros for 3 months of gym membership. Next year I might just go all out and pay for the whole year because that's significantly cheaper. But that's irrelevant.
If I have a busier month anytime soon, with significantly more hours billed to clients, I'll pay myself the personal vehicle usage benefit for visiting clients. This is up to 550 euros a month (50 cent per kilometer, up to 1100 km), tax free. Saves like 500 euros on tax compared to paying the same money out as regular income. Usage has to be documented though.
40, it took me ten minutes to grab my stuff and actually leave. And yeah, unpaid, commutes aren't usually paid in the US.
Isn't it 23 hours and 50 minutes to get home?